It could be argued, however, that Josie is just as superficial as John - going for the only good-looking guy in the house! She is clearly influenced by his looks - so can we condemn him for being influenced by hers?

nah i don't see it
i think too many of the JJ and josie fans can't accept the fact
she bitches about him and clearly can't stand at times to be around him

:joker:

Exactly! Nobody's even said that

Niamh, do you like the mammy boy JJ?
would you want him in your life

I'm already married Steve:hugesmile:

I know niamh:hugesmile: but imagine living with the paranoia and mummy boy tendices, who'd be found buried in the backyard:joker:. i like him he's out there and clearly has issues

Then why is she always mentioning the new "Sheila"? Because she is jealous and afraid he'll turn his attentions towards Keeley. Last night had little to do with crab eyes and five chins. She exploded because she was trying to protect herself in the long run by trying to push him away. It's a shame because everyone else except from Josie can see he is infatuated and cares about her deeply.

But I'm just a JJ and Josie fan, so wtf do I know? :rolleyes:

He has issues, but that's what I find really interesting about him.

He certainly doesn't fit into the typical pretty boy stereotype, you gotta give him credit for that at least!!

Exactly. But Josie also says she never gets attention from guys on the outside. So she is flourishing in the attention of JJ. As to why she keeps forgiving him.

em, well honestly, I don't think watching people in there is a fair way to judge how they behave in ordinary life. He may be acting the way he is now because he isn't coping well with the house situation, it is after all a social experiment. I think I'm a pretty normal kind of person but I know myself I wouldn't cope very well in there, I get cabin fever and start acting weird when I'm stuck at home for more than a day so I can only imagine what I would be like after living in there with a bunch of strangers, food rations and a voice messing with my head!

I can't understand why everybody's scorn is reserved for JJ, she was clearly angry at him because she is jealous/convinced he fancies Keeley, her rage was totally out of proportion to him just saying she'd called him crab eyes.

I'm starting to wonder if maybe JJ has a disabled sibling or something to make him so angry about anybody judging someone by how they look, then again, it might just be to capture the ugly duckling votes!

Oops, simultaneous posting.

What she said.

If they were on the outside in a club jj wouldn't have given josie a second look in the house it goes to show you shouldnt judge a book by its cover.

No, your not :)

Your up against victims of the Heat generation though so you will be in the minority. Most around here think it's their job to make women feel sh1t about their body shapes until they conform to their idea of 'correct'.

We agree on something at least!

lol did that kill you to say? ;P

John james is clearly thinking about his lolly pop , it can do stuff like that too someone who cant have any action i think he would even try with steve if he could

i agree jackie , spot on girl

I have said this before.

but you should also know that Josie has said "JJ reminds me of a little 11yo brother" in the past.

She said it about 2 weeks ago in the bathroom, when talking about if she fancied JJ or not.

it is the first BB incest showmance. Endemol are dutch after all :joker:

john james with the crab eyes

So glad I am not the only one who sees it, it bugs when when I see things and others don't.

There obviously is a lot wrong with JJ's childhood, from his dad dying and bullying, and by the looks of things he looks a bit of a mummies boy.

Did anyone notice when he was flirting with Sunshine and stopped? It was when she admitted to going up to guys in the night club and telling them she liked them, he hated it and you can tell his brain went into overdrive. JJ hates confident women who can get men, and I think it was a shock for him to find Sunshine with a face like lady gaga who can pull.

He never tore shreds into Rachel for nothing either, he was filled with preconceived notions about her too, though dare I say he was a little right LOL.

Could Josie and JJ romatically link? Quite possibly if no one else can tick his boxes, but there is a Mother/Son relationship developing there. She needs to hold his hands, breast feed him and change his nappies...poor love she is in for it.

He follows her around to huddle up together like my son did when he was 1 years old. I could not move, I had to sit down and hold him all day long, surprise she even has enough time to take a wash LOL

I caught a little bit of live feed today, now and then when Josie was resting on JJ he was brushing her breast...typicial childlike movement most boy toddles do to their mothers too. Nothing sexual about it, just seeking comfort and testing boundaries.

I don't see any sexual attraction from him towards her, frankly. Its more of an emotional dependency. She's like his comfort blanket. He is a Mummys boy after all.

She senses the lack of sexual attraction and its frustrating the hell out of her. She has been hijacked by emotional drama when she really needs to get back to her single, bubbly, fun self.

He is the ruin of her. And they are a disaster together. At least until they figure out that she is the faghag and he is the Gay.

Not at all - it is true! :hugesmile:

Funny, yet so true.