sorry, rant deleted.

Thank you, it must be my grammar or something LOL

May I say, you sound like a complete child, I am discussing a cheap reality show here, calm down and stick to the topic rather than attacking fellow posters.

It is a light hearted discussion, if you cannot handle it go to bed!

I am being light hearted. Was I attacking you..no..swearing a bit at your replies yes but I'm not attacking you.

the tone of your first statement kind of sets the tone for the thread don't you think?

Anyway, i'll take your advice and go to bed cause by **** you're a bore who knows nothing about whats happening on big brother at the moment.

My goodness you really do not know if you are coming or going, you are very inconsistent and strange, to be perfectly honest with you. What do they call it, a pinic short of a sandwich, I personally think kids like you should not be watching BB in the first place, or have internet access, Mummy and Daddy really need to sort out a password to keep you at bay.

Don't give it out if you can't take it.

perhaps you should read your first few posts in the thread and see the tone that they come across as.

On reflection though, yes i do sometimes over react, hey ho though, i aint going to lose any sleep over it.

So of you go back on topic, but now you have all the facts, perhaps you might want to stop chuntering.

Hmmm, what are the facts, manipulation in the house has commenced? All I saw was a very defensive wall by JJ today after Caomihe's revelations, and it was quite a shame.

The facts are that josie AND john are aware of what keeva said, and don't hold it against her because they know she was doing it for the good.

I agree with you it was a shame that we didn't get any further in the story, but it's just a minor set back, the josie jj story has got a long way to run yet. It's just a shame to me that keeva is being blamed for purposefully trying to hijack the blossoming relationship when all she was trying to do was save Josies blushes like a true friend would. When you get replies such as RUBBISH and stuff like that when you know all the facts gets really tiresome.But i'll bite the bullet and apologise for my ranty replies to you, you seem to have the same wishes regarding these two as myself.

Shake hands you two or I'll bash yer heids together :hugesmile:

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Come on what bloke after being told that a girl doesnt fancy him is going to admit that he fancies them especially one like John who seems to have very little self esteem, been watching the body language and I think he fancies her, he also admitted he fancied her at first, but he isnt being any different with her (not until now). Keeva has a lot to play in this and I think she has the hots for him she is no real friend of Josie or John if she kept out of the way for a while they may sort things out themselves.

exactly but she probably should have said nothing at all cos she as good as told him she didn't fancy him so he was never going to tell her he did fancy her if he did

I dont like Kevin much, she played Shabby and she's got stuck right in to some of the people in there (never face on though)....BUT...I dont think in this particular situation she had any other choice. It's not her place to reveal Josie's feelings.

She's had a pop at a couple of them face on, namely dave and ife.

What, the bitchy stuff?

I've seen her have words with Dave about the religion debate, and have words with Ife, but from what I've seen she keeps the nasty back for bitching.

Don't they all though, you can't just single out keeva(please don't bring any gaga names for her onto here) for that.

2 emotional cripples being "helped" by a nasty sneaky horrid "friend"

This thread is about Kevin, which is why I'm talking about her specifically....and that's what I refer to her as.

You mean to point out Josie's hypocrisy? Come off it. You're just spitting the dummy (again), because you won't have St. Josie's good name tarnished on this forum. Your borderline hysterical adulation of her is as nauseating as it is comic. She is just a z-list non-entity like all the rest of them!!! Let it lie.

I only watched the highlights show, but I thought it gave a fair enough picture of what happened - according to people who did see the live feed.

Caiomhe did make a complete balls of it, but I don't think it was malicious.

She gave John the impression that Josie really wasn't interested, so he responded the same way - as you would.

He then tried to speak to Josie about it but she was hurt and didn't want to reveal her position. He tried to get her to give him a clue so he didn't make a plonker of himself, but she was scared of making a plonker of herself so they got nowhere.

She has reacted badly by going into a sulk from what I can see.

It's fairly obvious that they both feel the same way about each other but neither of them wants to go out on a limb.

I think Caoimhe was put in a difficult position because Josie's behaviour had made it obvious to John that there was a problem. If Josie had acted normally he wouldn't have suspected anything.

It's all a bit 13 year olds in the playground at the moment.

But it isn't helped by the fact that neither of them is emotionally secure enough to make the first move.

I think they will get together eventually but not until they are outside the house.

A fair analysis, to be honest I did not catch the very last bit of the pair in the bathroom, my loud mouth sister turned up and demanded we give her our attention to her.

It has to be said, Josie is going off Keeva, and Keeva did not have to bring up the subject at all.

100% Blue - nothing bad from Keeva (where OP went wrong) - the JJ J are too scared to tell true to each other, whether it be love or pals as close male#female can be. If you read my summary above Keeva was a non-player, it's them

How much of the l'f do you watch?

The last bit shown in the bathroom was John saying words to the effect that "Oh well, Caiomhe didn't actually tell me what your feeling are???".

He was clearly (to me), trying to get her to give him a vibe - to which he could respond.

But she either misunderstood or chose not to answer because she stood up and walked out at that point.

If JJ and Josie are too scared to tell each other, I do not know how Keeva made it her business to tell him a lie, she could have just stated she truly does not know what Josie feels about him and it is best for them to take their time and sort it out between themselves.