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fuzzylovin 22-07-2010 05:21 PM

Do they not sign something on going into the house that they take responsiblity for any harm they may come too?
but i do agree that it was only made for 2 people, and keeley was too small to start off.

and i lol'd at corin still carrying on.

Shasown 22-07-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzylovin (Post 3538373)
Do they not sign something on going into the house that they take responsiblity for any harm they may come too?
but i do agree that it was only made for 2 people, and keeley was too small to start off.

and i lol'd at corin still carrying on.

Yeah they probably do, however most waivers arent worth the paper they are printed on. BB still has a duty of care to the housemates and they have to comply with regulations like H&S. That means ensuring their safety and doing their best to reduce the possibility of accidents to the minimum.

Just as competitors on the show shouldnt endanger themselves needlessly.

StGeorge 22-07-2010 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3538353)
Yes I can appreciate that contractors have to wear high boots for uneven ground, however you are talking about the ground surface being that of a building site. A slight difference to the surface they were required to do the task on, wouldnt you admit?

Trainers would have provided adequate ankle support and gripping for the task.

Yes I admit that saying "they were told" doesnt wash in H&S, however a line has to be drawn somewhere between the Employer and the Employees responsibilities under H&S. if they were shown how to wear them and instructed to wear them properly periodically etc, then that should suffice otherwise you get to the state were nothing would be done because people were having to stop to submit to checks. Most cases like this are decided on "what is reasonable to expect....".

Yeah I remember the car stunt that effectively ended Edmonds' career at the time. Why did we let him back? Since then TV has tightened up its safety guidelines etc. And insurance

Not exactly a building site, but an area with plenty of uneven ground for various reasons.
My own personal experience with sprained ankles is that trainers did bugger all to support me once the tilt is on and your weight takes over momentum.. ouch.
I dont think that compares here anyway as she actually fell down from the slope..it was an accident IMO but if there are any angles uncovered....then the Elf & Safe-T gang will pounce.

Insurance may cover damages but the threat of prosecution and possibly further sanctions could be even more damaging. This may be BBs last show, but it wasnt long ago that a simple thing like a Popadom had the CH4 bosses up until the wee hours.

IMO blame culture, knee jerk reactions and the compensation/libel industry is what drags our country down sometimes.

Patrick 22-07-2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 3537243)
They were made to do it by bb as to save themsaelves from the publiv vote. Wasnt as if she was mucking about in the garden and had an accident.

It was an accident waiting to happen.

BB are liable for what happened to her

This.

BB should of been sure that it was safe and tested it out properly.

Shasown 22-07-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by StGeorge (Post 3538593)
Not exactly a building site, but an area with plenty of uneven ground for various reasons.
My own personal experience with sprained ankles is that trainers did bugger all to support me once the tilt is on and your weight takes over momentum.. ouch.
I dont think that compares here anyway as she actually fell down from the slope..it was an accident IMO but if there are any angles uncovered....then the Elf & Safe-T gang will pounce.

Insurance may cover damages but the threat of prosecution and possibly further sanctions could be even more damaging. This may be BBs last show, but it wasnt long ago that a simple thing like a Popadom had the CH4 bosses up until the wee hours.

IMO blame culture, knee jerk reactions and the compensation/libel industry is what drags our country down sometimes.

Couldnt agree more mate. Was a little bit more than a Popadom though pmsl.

I find it funny people are trying to apportion blame already with knowing the full facts. If the H&SE actually even bother to investigate it should be funny seeing which way the decision goes and any future recommendations. No doubt the decision will be criticised by whichever camp loses.

StGeorge 22-07-2010 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 3538597)
This.

BB should of been sure that it was safe and tested it out properly.

They probably did Patrick....some poor numpties running up and down for a given time. But that wont legislate for accidents, you just have to make sure you have dotted your i's and crossed your Ts in your prep work.
As Shasown says:

"ensuring their safety and doing their best to reduce the possibility of accidents to the minimum"

is generally all thats required.
If the PPE is deemed to be satisfactory for this task, then its just a case of an accident.

Despite all this though....Keeley is probably entitled to some form of compensation just for bloody hurting herself..thats what compo is like now.

StGeorge 22-07-2010 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3538611)
Couldnt agree more mate. Was a little bit more than a Popadom though pmsl.

.

Ok it was the chicken dinner as well :hugesmile:

boomoo 22-07-2010 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 3537119)
I would sue.

She broke her ankle!

How come Corin and Rachel did not sustain a fracture?
If the task was dangerous why arn't they injured. Especially Corin who continued to pursue the task until she ran out of energy.

StGeorge 22-07-2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by boomoo (Post 3538669)
How come Corin and Rachel did not sustain a fracture?
If the task was dangerous why arn't they injured. Especially Corin who continued to pursue the task until she ran out of energy.

Blimey....if all accidents were viewed in the same manner....Elf & Safe-T would be on the dole.:rolleyes:


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