who gives ben the right to say that though its none of his buisness all he does is bitch every episode its getting tedious

Yet her best mate, ol' Crab Eyes sat and nodded in agreement, because Ben spoke the absolute truth, as always. Let's face it, she looked absolutely enormous tonight stood next to the weedy Aussie twat. Don't let's pretend she ain't big, and she should not be wearing tight tops, perhaps her "real" mates should tell her. Spare tyres and overhanging stomachs are not a good look, and she could look so much better if she dressed for her shape.

As for being a terrible thing to say, I don't hear all you Ben haters say a dickie bird at some of the abuse that's hurled his way. Hypocrites? Much.

It was pretty ****ty.

Thankyou thankyou thankyou.

He is getting worse every episode. But he has been bitching about people from the beginning but covers it up in a compliment.

It is worth noting (and i remember this from previous big brothers when they had psychologists talking) that when someone says something then says 'but' it usually cancels out everything they have said before. i.e. 'I love mario but he can be gloomy' which becomes 'Mario can be Gloomy, and i dislike him for that.'

We are commenting on his character and are outside the house. Ben is insulting someone inside the house very rudely. The fact that John James was n't bothered by it was because he knows Ben is full of **** anyway.

Spin it how you want, JJ1 was in agreement with Ben. Let's face it JJ1 usually has a go at Ben for absolutely nothing, so if he was offended by that remark why didn't he say something? And don't lie about HOW Ben said it, he pointed out that Josie was dressing inappropriately for her figure in order to compete with the other girls because she felt threatened. He did not say it maliciously, no matter how much you would like to believe that.

If, on the other hand, Ben WAS being horrible as you believe, what does that make JJ1 just sitting there and agreeing?

1. He was being rude. They all know how Josie feels about her figure. It was meant as insult, and said as an insult. No Less!
2. John James has argued with Ben before and it gets no-where because thinks he is the centre of the universe, there is no point in JJ1 arguing with him. It seemed to me like JJ bit his tongue because no matter what you do ben is always convinced he is right.
And apparently his supporters are exactly the same.

Well said Angus and why has no one commented on what names crabeyes has called her which imo is much worse than Ben said,it's simple they just want something ,anything to have a go at Ben for, while at the same time letting crab eyes be cruel and nasty,anyone with a brain cell would know how Ben meant it but here we go again,"Oh Bens being a bitch" are these people for real?

BEN was spot on actually,as KAZANNE says if you had something on that ws making you look rediculous and you asked Ben do I look nice in this he would tell you no,not out of malice but to spare you embarrassment.He is no saint but unlike most in there he is totally honest. Josie is hardly a CHERYL COLE type of girl,and she is doing herself no favours as to dress semse in ther e at present whether its ill fittin outfits or ugly duvets wrapped round her or very unflattering dressing gowns, BEN by the way always looks great.

How was Ben rude? so calling her 98 chins and fatarse is not rude,(it's luuurrrve) but saying wearing small tops does not suit her shape is:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker ::joker:,OMG,JJ bit his tongue,my arse:joker::joker:deluded much.

its none ben buisness how she dresses though also about jj calling josie 98 chins that was a joke and he was only messing around but ben was not

So let me get this straight. I say that someone looks fat and that the clothes they wear make them look bad. I am complimenting them? Good God! ben supporters are worse than Ben himself. '98 chins' was in response to her insulting him, and insult which she did not realise was as insulting as she thought, they both apologised for it. 'Fatarse' i don't remember this, but they do have loads of jokes they have with each other. I would be OK for a friend to joke with me knowing that they were joking. I would not want some posh stuck up twat commenting on my appearance when he isn't even my friend.

Jeez, when will you open your eyes to the piece of sh*t that is JJ1?

Do you know something in all honesty there's a lot of nonsense talked as to JJames caring for Josie, I tell you this between the 2, Josie would find that the person out of the house who would be more caring as a friend and a better friend than most to her would be BEN, and he would be a 1000 times a better friend than JJames who will likely drop Josie like a hot brick the moment BB is finished.

Will you open you eyes up to the piece of **** that is ben? A selfish, self-obsessed, whining, twisting, lyer.

Examples please of Bens lies?

Funny,Joey they don't answer the questions that need answering,isn't it?

As you said, Josie is NOT his friend, that was proved by her nomming him, so if others can say stuff to him without censure, he is accorded the same privilege. Didn't see the duvet draped diva anywhere near when he said that, so how was he insulting her? She and others have made plenty of derogatory comments about Ben - he seems to be the butt of all their nasty digs and jokes because he is non confrontational and they get away with it, so why should they be exempt from criticism? Ben spoke the truth, and sometimes the truth hurts. It would only an insult if it were NOT true. Now you're suggesting that her best pal couldn't be arsed to challenge Ben if he was that upset about it? - that makes him even more of a tosser.

As for JJ&J supporters - what I think of them is unprintable because despite all the evidence in front of their eyes they refuse to believe what the rest of us can plainly see, and for that I can only pity them.

No Josie the Duvet Diva, is the "lyer" - it's all she does all day long, lying in bed.:sleep:

As for JJ1 HE is the barefaced "liar"- lying to her and to the viewers, and STILL they think the sun shines out of his crabby eyes cos "he's fit innit"?

Kazanne, they dont answer because although they can say something they cannot back it up with facts,You are spot on and although I know we are wasting our time trying to get any fairness out of them, I will jump in for Ben anyday. He is the most honest genuine guy who is beintg totally himself in there.
No you are right they NEVER can come back with any answers that are backed up with facts all they can do is be silly and pathetic but we know the truth and we can defend Bne bexause he makes it so easy to do for him with his honesty and decency,likely something his attackeers know NOTHING at all about, being honest and decent.

Spot on Joey but you know the facts will confuse them don't you?:xyxwave:

Well said ben fans are seriously deluded

He DIDN'T SAY SHE LOOKED FAT did he? but crab eyes did,but you keep denying, and dream on.

I dont think they know what FACTS are Kazanne, they likely think its only what you send to someone through a machine.Not realising the FACTS we are talking about is something totally different,they probably dont even notice it has a different spelling either.

kazane he basically did call her fat and john james has never called josie fat so i dont know where u got that from

I'm done with him.. I want him out.. how dare him.
I want him to go back into obscurity