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ally001 14-01-2006 04:10 PM

Emotinally unstable of course she is, she'd proably even admit it to herself, in the real world she takes what the press say to heart and she proably cries a lot. Did I mention Barrymore? Nope I did not. I said the older housemates i.e. Traci and Rula. Pete may have given good advice, he's not unstable is he? [/quote]

If anyone was constantly slagged off in the press it would get them down sometimes. I've seen loads of documentries with famous people getting upset over press articles. She wouldn't be human if it didn't get to her.
I think it's really rude of all the housemates to try and ram their advice down her throat, she didn't ask for any. Try going up to people you don't know that well and offering unsolicited advice on how they should behave and see what kind of reception you get? Bet they tell you to b***** off.

The last line about Pete not being unstable was a joke yeah? A more well balanced down to earth specimen that Pete Burns would be hard to find. :laugh::joker::laugh:

bex_0614 14-01-2006 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by BB fernzy

Emotinally unstable of course she is, she'd proably even admit it to herself, in the real world she takes what the press say to heart and she proably cries a lot. Did I mention Barrymore? Nope I did not. I said the older housemates i.e. Traci and Rula. Pete may have given good advice, he's not unstable is he?
PETES NOT UNSTABLE?!!! Of course he bl**dy is!!! He protests against being a transvestite, when the oxford english dictionary defines (quotes) a transvestite as "somebody who habitually or frequently adopts the dress and often the behaviour of the opposite sex" Nothing AT ALL against transvestites, and not saying that transvestites are unstable, but a man who regularly dresses like a woman, denies being a cross dresser and gets mad at anyone who thinks he is, in my opinion has SERIOUS issues. Plus the fact in the diary room since the day he got here he has cried about missing his boyfriend!!!!

Dan_ 14-01-2006 04:28 PM

Pete just think's he is Pete and does not like to catergorise himself. Other than he's pretty clued up on everything else but just misses his boyfriend.

ally001 14-01-2006 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by BB fernzy

I never said she was mentally unwell, she's very emotional when it comes to being crticised in anyway, others can take that but she cannot. A few of the older housemates have their faults but that does not mean they cannot give adivce, they have been about the business longer and will have picked up some good thing's along the way that may have helped Jodie, how about Rula as well?

I've heard nothing from the anti-bullying association but I will take your word for it. I was bullied years ago so only know too well. I feel that Jodie was not totally blameless in it all though, I already said about her trying to get the others to gang up against Pete over his coat, he faced what anyone put at him.

Of course she's going to be intimidated by 3 angry men but she still reacted and did not take anything on board which then turned it into an arguement, it was the constant defensive responses that caused a lot of trouble.
So if you were bullied why can't you see how awful it was? you appear to me to be jumping on the band wagon (not saying you ARE but it seems that way)

you say Jodie is not blameless but how can anyone be blamed for being bullied. I agree she's no saint, she has many faults (don't we all) but she and no one deserves that treatment. I disagree with you she is emotionally unstable, I think she was very strong. I think if I was getting treated like that I would probably have either burst into tears or decked someone. Pete did react badly to her sniping about his coat. He continually bitched about her and was nasty to her after that.

Maybe she would have picked up tips from other people but for them to force their advice on her is just arrogant and she's old enough to make her own mistakes. Rula telling her she should listen to her advice is a nice way of saying 'you are no good'.

She was wrong trying to get others to gang up on pete, but he didn't really have much thrown at him cos no one else made a comment as they are all too scared of him, even though they'd all agreed earlier the coat was offensive.

your last sentence really bothers me. she is getting shouted at by 3 angry men and you say her defensive responsive caused a lot of the trouble? Who wouldn't be defensive? She was not to blame for their frankly revolting behaviour and as grown men they should be ashamed of themselves.

ally001 14-01-2006 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by BB fernzy
Pete just think's he is Pete and does not like to catergorise himself. Other than he's pretty clued up on everything else but just misses his boyfriend.
clued up????? :laugh:

how mad do you have to be to hack up your face in such extreme plastic surgery operations.

I suppose you think michael jackson is just a regular guy too? :laugh:

ally001 14-01-2006 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by BB fernzy
Pete just think's he is Pete and does not like to catergorise himself. Other than he's pretty clued up on everything else but just misses his boyfriend.
You seem to think that because Pete doesn't cry he's a 'stable' person.
If I remember rightly he was sat with Jodie on the first night whinging about his negative press attention.
He deals with it in different ways when he's upset though. He becomes aggressive and nasty and bullies people. Surely it's more normal to shed a few tears?

Dan_ 14-01-2006 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by ally001
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Originally posted by BB fernzy

I never said she was mentally unwell, she's very emotional when it comes to being crticised in anyway, others can take that but she cannot. A few of the older housemates have their faults but that does not mean they cannot give adivce, they have been about the business longer and will have picked up some good thing's along the way that may have helped Jodie, how about Rula as well?

I've heard nothing from the anti-bullying association but I will take your word for it. I was bullied years ago so only know too well. I feel that Jodie was not totally blameless in it all though, I already said about her trying to get the others to gang up against Pete over his coat, he faced what anyone put at him.

Of course she's going to be intimidated by 3 angry men but she still reacted and did not take anything on board which then turned it into an arguement, it was the constant defensive responses that caused a lot of trouble.
So if you were bullied why can't you see how awful it was? you appear to me to be jumping on the band wagon (not saying you ARE but it seems that way)

you say Jodie is not blameless but how can anyone be blamed for being bullied. I agree she's no saint, she has many faults (don't we all) but she and no one deserves that treatment. I disagree with you she is emotionally unstable, I think she was very strong. I think if I was getting treated like that I would probably have either burst into tears or decked someone. Pete did react badly to her sniping about his coat. He continually bitched about her and was nasty to her after that.

Maybe she would have picked up tips from other people but for them to force their advice on her is just arrogant and she's old enough to make her own mistakes. Rula telling her she should listen to her advice is a nice way of saying 'you are no good'.

She was wrong trying to get others to gang up on pete, but he didn't really have much thrown at him cos no one else made a comment as they are all too scared of him, even though they'd all agreed earlier the coat was offensive.

your last sentence really bothers me. she is getting shouted at by 3 angry men and you say her defensive responsive caused a lot of the trouble? Who wouldn't be defensive? She was not to blame for their frankly revolting behaviour and as grown men they should be ashamed of themselves.
I don't jump on bandwagon's I don't agree with the way that the 3 blokes approached thing's but I sensed their frustration with the way she was acting, I was screaming at the t.v. myself and I'm not easily riled.

Jodie was hardly a quiet little girl in the corner that got picked on for being weak, she was nominated by 8 people and at various times those 8 all had a go at the way she acted and she caused such annoyance to others provoking them into saying thing's to her. If she's going to behave in a certain way that rub's others up the wrong way she's bound to be set upon, most of the stuff was just arguements to me. It takes two to tango.

I still maintain that she is emotinally unstable because she did break down a lot and her moods changed quite a lot.

You're never too old to learn and a lot of the time she was bitching off about something to someone else and I would find it hard not to give out advice, then she does not like the advice you give and then an arguement starts. If she does not want advice she should not go about seeking it out with the comments that she makes. Rula's proably twice Jodie's age and could give good advice, thing's may have been easier if she took something on board because she cleary annoyed the majority of her fellow housemates.

Even though nobody really challenged Pete over his coat, it's still can be classed as bullying on Jodie's part. It was a typical bullying tactic.

She was always on the defensive though, not just from the barrage from the 3 guys but every single thing she did not agree with when someone said something to her, some of the trouble could have been avoided if she just sat back listened then took it on and voiced her opinion in a well mannered way or just ignored it.

AndyJK 14-01-2006 05:02 PM

Those of you who voted to evict Jodie obviously have your reasons which you stand by. Fair enough. But I want to make this clear to you that you've ruined the show for me and many other people.

And if you voted Jodie out because of bullying and her feeling miserable (which most housemates succumb to sooner or later) you've in effect allowed the bullies to win because they've successfully hounded her out of the house. So give yourselves a pat on the back for being sensitive do-gooders.

Dan_ 14-01-2006 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by ally001
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Originally posted by BB fernzy
Pete just think's he is Pete and does not like to catergorise himself. Other than he's pretty clued up on everything else but just misses his boyfriend.
clued up????? :laugh:

how mad do you have to be to hack up your face in such extreme plastic surgery operations.

I suppose you think michael jackson is just a regular guy too? :laugh:
I don't really agree with plastic surgery but it all went wrong and he had to correct it. Jodie's had her fair share of it, imagine if she had been hacked to bit's.

Pete's very witty a lot of the time and is clearly not stupid, just a bit sharp with his tongue.

Dan_ 14-01-2006 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by ally001
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Originally posted by BB fernzy
Pete just think's he is Pete and does not like to catergorise himself. Other than he's pretty clued up on everything else but just misses his boyfriend.
You seem to think that because Pete doesn't cry he's a 'stable' person.
If I remember rightly he was sat with Jodie on the first night whinging about his negative press attention.
He deals with it in different ways when he's upset though. He becomes aggressive and nasty and bullies people. Surely it's more normal to shed a few tears?
Pete does cry though.

InTheHood 14-01-2006 05:05 PM

Pete is majorly damaged.

But so are Jodie, Michael, Dennis..........:shocked::blush:

ThaGazBoi 14-01-2006 05:05 PM

I seen him cry once, I think. That was because he misses his boyfriend

Dan_ 14-01-2006 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by AndyJK
Those of you who voted to evict Jodie obviously have your reasons which you stand by. Fair enough. But I want to make this clear to you that you've ruined the show for me and many other people.

And if you voted Jodie out because of bullying and her feeling miserable (which most housemates succumb to sooner or later) you've in effect allowed the bullies to win because they've successfully hounded her out of the house. So give yourselves a pat on the back for being sensitive do-gooders.
She's only one housemate though one housemate does not totally make a show, how do you know what's going to happen now she's left?

texbex 14-01-2006 05:12 PM

I only voted Jodie out bcoz she is a slapper and she was getting picked on which in the end made me feel soz 4 her coz I didnt want her to go thru it 4 a long time but u cud c how much she woz lovin the flashes of the cameras on her I woz like i c wot pete and barrymore mean!

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AndyJK 14-01-2006 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by BB fernzy

She's only one housemate though one housemate does not totally make a show, how do you know what's going to happen now she's left?
The naughtiness has gone as Jody was the only housemate brave enough to cause mischief. There is so much control in that house. As Preston says George is controlling it like a Communist regime.

The only jocularity we're going to see now is from Michael Barrymore prancing about.

Dan_ 14-01-2006 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by AndyJK
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Originally posted by BB fernzy

She's only one housemate though one housemate does not totally make a show, how do you know what's going to happen now she's left?
The naughtiness has gone as Jody was the only housemate brave enough to cause mischief. There is so much control in that house. As Preston says George is controlling it like a Communist regime.

The only jocularity we're going to see now is from Michael Barrymore prancing about.
I think we will still get a few laughs once some of the older one's go such as George.

It's a bit of an odd mix of housemates.

AndyJK 14-01-2006 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by BB fernzy
I think we will still get a few laughs once some of the older one's go such as George.

It's a bit of an odd mix of housemates.
Sorry I don't share your optimism, that's if, of course, no more housemates are expected to go into the house. Its only a few week long show, are you saying you couldn't put up with Jodie for another week or so? Christ on a stick, what planet do you people live on? Go and watch Antiques Roadshow or listen to a nice radio 4 play if you can't stand people on TV you dislike.

And you lot claim to be BB Fans but you don't do whats best for the programme and BB fans as a whole, only what's best for you.

InTheHood 14-01-2006 06:12 PM

Since Jodie left, it's been so dull.

Did you see the party last night? How dull was that?

Sir Jimmy Saville has made it even worse! £150k.....he's laughing!

AndyJK 14-01-2006 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by InTheHood
Since Jodie left, it's been so dull.

Did you see the party last night? How dull was that?

Sir Jimmy Saville has made it even worse! £150k.....he's laughing!
I didn't see it. Maybe they'll show some of it in tonight's highlights.

I can't believe Jimmy Saville is getting paid that much though. Seems very excesive amount of money and not even to be a hosuemate.

BB-Rocks 14-01-2006 06:19 PM

I know if it dull !

Its just a typical Big Borther. The msot entertaining always go at an early stage.

InTheHood 14-01-2006 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by AndyJK


I didn't see it. Maybe they'll show some of it in tonight's highlights.

I can't believe Jimmy Saville is getting paid that much though. Seems very excesive amount of money and not even to be a hosuemate.
More likely to be in the lowlights, I think they danced once, and it got interesting for about 2 minutes when Traci got let out the bedroom. And they played about 3 songs, over and over again :blush:

He's laughing, 150k is ludicrous money for so little 'work'.

Maybe he can buy a new Tracksuit with the cash!

jodie-2-win 14-01-2006 09:40 PM

yer she shuld have won it i reckon! but i supose its easier for her not to be in there because it wpuld have upset her more i think bt im gutted shes gone n i definatly think she should have won! xxxxxxxxxxx

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BB-Rocks 14-01-2006 09:45 PM

I don't think she would have been as upset as she has been if either Pete or George. Even in tonights coverage i saw a wee bit of her fun side when she was in the pool

CharlotteSometimes 15-01-2006 07:20 AM

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Originally posted by bex_0614

PETES NOT UNSTABLE?!!! Of course he bl**dy is!!! He protests against being a transvestite, when the oxford english dictionary defines (quotes) a transvestite as "somebody who habitually or frequently adopts the dress and often the behaviour of the opposite sex" Nothing AT ALL against transvestites, and not saying that transvestites are unstable, but a man who regularly dresses like a woman, denies being a cross dresser and gets mad at anyone who thinks he is, in my opinion has SERIOUS issues.

Plus the fact in the diary room since the day he got here he has cried about missing his boyfriend!!!!
Your post actually voids your argument. By that definition, pretty much every girl or woman in the Western world is a transvestite.

It's called being in love.

CharlotteSometimes 15-01-2006 07:29 AM

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Originally posted by AndyJK

Go and watch Antiques Roadshow or listen to a nice radio 4 play if you can't stand people on TV you dislike.

And you lot claim to be BB Fans but you don't do whats best for the programme and BB fans as a whole, only what's best for you.
The whole point of the show is to vote for the hm's you don't like to be evicted. Do you expect people to vote out the hm's they like?

Or rather, you wish that they'd done what was best for you. The most unpopular hm was evicted. She was a fake, bogus sham of a woman, had no positive character traits whatsoever, and is an insult to her gender. When she wasn't crying, looking for sympathy or moaning that she's bullied (basically because she's a bully herself) by the media, she was incredibly dull. Her eviction was the best thing that could've happened in the series, and the only regret is that we had to wait so long for it to happen.


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