Originally Posted by Showstopper (Post 3609440)

which words do then ?

Originally Posted by agneth (Post 3609463)

Hi Showstopper

I agree with you. I think some people think being different means putting people down.

I hope John James and Josie have lasting relationships. I love Josie and Corin. They have the courage to speak honestly whilst others are just in there to be famous.

I am always wary of people who feel it's cool to slag people off.

Originally Posted by Shiner (Post 3609473)

Flawed, prejudiced, oversimplified, inaccurate, opinionated, yadda yadda yadda :D

Originally Posted by Showstopper (Post 3609454)

I love that expression - complete fail - its so cool

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 3609500)

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John James and Josie called to the DR, both giggly and cuddly, Josie leaves the DR, before the door is shut his face changes completely to stoney indifference. Caught on camera for all to see.
Fake I am afraid. :hugesmile:

Originally Posted by Shiner (Post 3609573)

Did we ever find out what he said at that juncture?

Originally Posted by Showstopper (Post 3609648)

this was when they were not allowed to be in the same room etc. He stayed in the diary room as he wanted to find out the "rules" of the punishment.

His expression did completely change yes, thats 100% correct as he was unhappy at the punishment handed down to him

Originally Posted by Shiner (Post 3609776)

Yes that's what he said but he'd already been told the very simple rules already. He explicitly asked Josie to leave. Why? It wouldn't be wasting her time to hear 2 rules again. It was because he obviously wanted some time away from Josie to discuss something with BB.

Originally Posted by Showstopper (Post 3613423)

He had just been banned from being around Josie - he didnt have to stay in the diary room to be away from her

Originally Posted by Showstopper (Post 3609217)

I really do have to take my hat off to some of the posters on this site. Some of the outlandish rubbish I have read in relation to the relationship of John James and Josie is not only off the wall, but off the damn planet.

so lets take a closer look at some of the fact and fiction being thrown around at the moment.

The Fiction - John James was simply good friends with Josie and over time she has misinterpreted his intentions, escalated things and forced herself upon him. Due to shyness he has let things go to far and now he is stuck in a "romance" he never wanted. He just dosen't have the guts to tell her in case he hurts her feelings and embarasses her on national TV

The Fact - John James is a twenty something year old grown man who had the confidence to travel half way around the world to enter BB. He's known to shoot his mouth off at times, and lets face it he could have an arguement with himself in an empty room. Are we to believe that the same person who reduced Rachel to tears on more then one occasion on national tv is going to continue in a romance because he's too scared to speak up? He is a grown man not a 12 year old boy. If he didn't want to be with Josie he wouldn't


The Fiction - The "showmance" is a game plan. By partaking in a romance, John James is sure to get the votes of the teenage girls etc, magazine deals after the show, and make lots of money

The Fact - Look at Kris from last years BB. He was perceived to be doing the fake romance thing and the public romanced his ass out the door. That "plan" would be completely illogical. Look at Sezar the sleazer, he was never heard of again. Because of his looks John James will prob get magazine deals etc anyway, he dosent need Josie for that. Also Josie has now said she won't sell her story, that didnt even register with John James.

The Fiction - The romance will allow him and Josie to sail through to the final and possibly win.

The Fact - HM's in romances have done well at times in BB, but thats been down to their personalities more then any romance. Their are easier ways to win. If that was JJ's ploy he wouldnt be spending half the day in bed under a duvet. if he was willing to go to those lengths to win he would also take more care of what he says, he wouldn't have slagged off the two Rachel's like he has. He also wouldn't have walked out the fire exit. For all he knew he may not have been let back in. To pull off a plan like that would take a huge amount of self control, self control which John James has proved he dosent have

The Fiction - John James always look uncomfortable when Josie trys to kiss him etc.

The Fact - Some people are private people and are not into public displays of affection. I can understand completely where he is coming from. I wouldn't like to be snogging the face off someone knowing my family and friends are watching. He is also in a house being watched by the public. Anything he does is being judged. Wouldn't that make you paranoid

You can micro analyse every little thing Tripple J do, but to be honest I see no reason not to take them at their word in regards to their relationship.

You may not like them. and you may not like their relationship, but it is real

Originally Posted by Julesuk (Post 3613592)

Makes me laugh all the speculation - I would rather watch them together than see Corin jumping into bed to give JJ quick hand relief - yet that seems to be acceptable.

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 3613602)

Speak for yourself - I would rather watch Corin! And she did not give him a hand-job - only the drama queens with extremely over-active imaginations believe that!

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3613606)

Yes the same ones that have Crabby and Josie half way up the aisle:joker:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 3613602)

Speak for yourself - I would rather watch Corin! And she did not give him a hand-job - only the drama queens with extremely over-active imaginations believe that!

Originally Posted by 30stone (Post 3613670)

The only reason the relationship is a massive thing is because of the hate..

95 / 100 threads about the relationship are negative.. but still meaning people are interested even if its just to hate on them..


If people stopped making thread after thread on the same old rubbish that they just "know" everything jj and josie are thinking..

Then there would be very little and the relationship wouldnt be the main focus point.

Originally Posted by 30stone (Post 3613670)

The only reason the relationship is a massive thing is because of the hate..

95 / 100 threads about the relationship are negative.. but still meaning people are interested even if its just to hate on them..


If people stopped making thread after thread on the same old rubbish that they just "know" everything jj and josie are thinking..

Then there would be very little and the relationship wouldnt be the main focus point.

Originally Posted by Shiner (Post 3613556)

And?