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Ramsay 15-08-2010 03:08 PM

i dont wanna get in a debate ive gotten into maaaany
but yes it should it
if you actually go way back to when it became illegal it was because tobacco companys werent getting any business cus everyone was buying doob
so all the tobacco people used propaganda to make it illegal
lol
but yeah
legal woo

BB_Eye 15-08-2010 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl. (Post 3663362)
i dont wanna get in a debate ive gotten into maaaany
but yes it should it
if you actually go way back to when it became illegal it was because tobacco companys werent getting any business cus everyone was buying doob
so all the tobacco people used propaganda to make it illegal
lol
but yeah
legal woo

So it's just a legal taboo really, which makes it an easy target for the right-wing press and the Conservative party.

oddballmisfitsFTW 15-08-2010 03:51 PM

I would much rather prefer them to legalise prostitution and make it free on the NHS to those with low income

:elephant:

Shaun 15-08-2010 08:48 PM

We should all just copy the Netherlands' laws, really. It's pretty much the most liberal and sensibly so country around.

BOOSH 15-08-2010 09:04 PM

Yes :love:

Shasown 15-08-2010 09:16 PM

Yeah it should be legalised and taxed at an appropriate level, but prior to that there should be independent scientific tests carried out to determine a safe/unsafe level for blood cabannoid levels for driving, operating machinery etc.

Whilst it is true that there has never been a proven death caused by marijuana usage, there have been indirect deaths caused by its use. Consequently prior to its legalisation there should also be a public awareness campaign to make everyone aware of its use, abuse, effects etc.

As for the argument about growing your own, yes anyone can however unless you set up an almost commercial set up, the end product wont be as good or as cheap as some of the street brands. Its the same sort of thing as making your own wines and beers.

Ramsay 15-08-2010 09:42 PM

basically if alchohol which makes you make a complete ass of yourself and gives you a **** load of damage is legal
then why isnt weed
its much safer and healthyer

30stone 16-08-2010 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3662933)

Steroids not bad :)


Either way i dont think it should be legalised.

dudus 23-08-2010 11:17 AM

rite, basically ganja is the healing of us nation but the illuminati and reptilians want it illegal, u know why? cos then the people dem drink themselfs silly and end up not caring wots going on
research showed tht bud can even help stop lung cancer, anyone who thinks it shud still be illegal is either a SHILL, OR JUST PLAIN DUMB, BRAIN DEAD

dudus 23-08-2010 11:18 AM

yeah, dont legalise it, keep controlling the people with a boot on there face! THE THING IS THO, i bet all yous lot get pissed every nite of the week, but if booze were discovered today it would be a class a drug, and youd probably call it EVIL AND SPAWN OF SATAN

spitfire 23-08-2010 08:34 PM

Yes.What right does the Government have to say what plant i can or can not smoke?What right does the Government have to say what mushroom i can or can not eat?

InOne 23-08-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by spitfire (Post 3704440)
Yes.What right does the Government have to say what plant i can or can not smoke?What right does the Government have to say what mushroom i can or can not eat?

I just do it, don't think twice about it. Never had the police at my door...

Shasown 23-08-2010 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dudus (Post 3702050)
rite, basically ganja is the healing of us nation but the illuminati and reptilians want it illegal, u know why? cos then the people dem drink themselfs silly and end up not caring wots going on
research showed tht bud can even help stop lung cancer, anyone who thinks it shud still be illegal is either a SHILL, OR JUST PLAIN DUMB, BRAIN DEAD

And its the reptilians who want us all to drink ourselves silly and die of lung cancer?

AfroMullet 23-08-2010 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudus (Post 3702050)
rite, basically ganja is the healing of us nation but the illuminati and reptilians want it illegal, u know why? cos then the people dem drink themselfs silly and end up not caring wots going on
research showed tht bud can even help stop lung cancer, anyone who thinks it shud still be illegal is either a SHILL, OR JUST PLAIN DUMB, BRAIN DEAD

Couldnt have said it better.

Jah Rastafari, praise be to the most high. Bless mi lion.

InOne 23-08-2010 11:12 PM

Only the middle class want weed banned :nono: We hate them

Nick : ) 23-08-2010 11:13 PM

Yes ... even though I dont take drugs I think It's fine.. : )

bananarama 24-08-2010 09:06 AM

No. It should be a criminal offence to take any recreational drug. Drugs are for morons and idiots and those with a zero personality.....

Alcohol needs to be tightly regulated including a ban on shops and stores selling the poison liquids.....Binge drinkers should be jailed for life.......

30stone 24-08-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dudus (Post 3702055)
yeah, dont legalise it, keep controlling the people with a boot on there face! THE THING IS THO, i bet all yous lot get pissed every nite of the week,

Nope.

Dont drink, dont smoke.

dudus 24-08-2010 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bananarama (Post 3706849)
No. It should be a criminal offence to take any recreational drug. Drugs are for morons and idiots and those with a zero personality.....

Alcohol needs to be tightly regulated including a ban on shops and stores selling the poison liquids.....Binge drinkers should be jailed for life.......

why not just torture and kill every1 while your at it eh?

spitfire 24-08-2010 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bananarama (Post 3706849)
Drugs are for morons and idiots and those with a zero personality.

Remember that next time you go to pop a paracetamol to get rid of a headache.

MTVN 24-08-2010 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spitfire (Post 3704440)
Yes.What right does the Government have to say what plant i can or can not smoke?What right does the Government have to say what mushroom i can or can not eat?

So heroin should be legal as well?

spitfire 24-08-2010 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 3708650)
So heroin should be legal as well?

Yes.

Shasown 24-08-2010 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bananarama (Post 3706849)
No. It should be a criminal offence to take any recreational drug. Drugs are for morons and idiots and those with a zero personality.....

Alcohol needs to be tightly regulated including a ban on shops and stores selling the poison liquids.....Binge drinkers should be jailed for life.......

Wow i bet you are a bundle of laughs to live with. You arent a quaker are you?

You know abstaining from all those lovely chemicals wont make you live forever, it will just seem like it.

setanta 24-08-2010 09:45 PM

I'm not sure anymore. Got a bday present of a load of it last week, and I'm telling you, I was fit for nothing for a the whole time. I suppose that says more about me than the drug really. Good fun though, and with the right health warnings and funding it could be controlled.

MassiveTruck 27-08-2010 12:15 AM

No

If you think it's expensive now it will be far more expensive after a shop keeper or the NHS adds all the overheads on top of it.

Secondly, there are numerous health risks associated with it.

Thirdly, it's another thing to keep the destitute and lower ends of society right there... all drugged up with no aspirations to improve their life.

Fourthly, on top of thirdly, it stops anybody from finding something better to do with their lives. It's an addiction for the immobile.

Fifth, there is too much pseudo-cultural attachments to Marijuana from Reggae to hedonism to liberalism to Rastafarianism that people think they can excuse themselves from anything because they have a certain lifestyle. It's just another way of dragging yourself down in that way.

Sixth, Some recent studies state it does call mental health problems from psychosis to mood disorders, schizophrenia is common too. A lot of pro-cannabis groups try and use older less established studies to state this isn't the case but causal relationships have been found.

Seventh, it is a political and economic tool. In Portugal, Holland and some states of the US, politicians use it to gain votes in the same way it was stated in the fifth comment, to associate themselves with vulnerable groups which inadvertently brings money into the common but makes the stupid voter believe what they are doing benefits them but just keeps the wrong people in power.

Eight, it's a drug that is globally used, because it grows easily, to traffic children, sex workers, slaves, drugs and also arms around the world. For the Taliban and Al Qaeda, it is the second drug of choice when acquiring arms. Eventually as they sell drugs around the middle east, this money trickles through to arms traffickers in the west and in the UK and therefore supplies this economy.

Ninth, with immigration increasing and related to the Eighth point, a lot of these problems have appeared in our cities and in some towns and villages of our country which leads to them financing the trafficking of not only drugs but slaves, cheap workers up and down the country.

Tenth, and an important one, it is used alongside the "war on drugs" narrative and by that liberal groups say the war on drugs will never stop... but that's not the point is it. How do you control a mass of people looking for ways to cope with life and the problems inherent in life. So the war on drugs isn't the issue, it's people problems which relates to numerous points above.

Eleventh, drug use is common in prisons and the reason most people go to prison. Legalising it will just raise this problems as it has done in Holland, Portugal and the US as people from Canada, Mexico, North Africa, Spain, Scandinavia and England, enter these countries to makes use of the lax laws in order to fund other crimes upon addicts. When people talk of a gateway drug, a) it is a gateway drug but b) it also finance and encourages the use of other drugs in communities that inherently increase crime in order to fund or encourage drug cultures.

Twelfth, Further from the mental health strain there are also physical problems in smoking Cannabis. Not only on the lungs and the heart but also the breakdown of DNA by the oxidisation of chemicals inside cells which combat disease. As this leads to problems for an individuals children as well as they grow up with a weaker immune system in line with the mental health problems it creates a time bomb for mental health issues with kids as well where the susceptibility to mood disorders and psychosis is rife amongst poorer less privileged communities.

Thirteenth, and related to the point about cultures and poorer communities, it is a widely used drug and encouraged between numerous groups. Even the upper classes smoke it as well... most of these drugs are skunk, grown through hydroponics and the ease of access has caused it to be passed around. The dependency on the drug is problematic as people who only see a glimmer of an individual who sells it doesn't see the inherent problems it brings on society and their family because it becomes the norm and behaviours become the norm. These studies on society go back to 19th Century and were pre-cursors to psycho-analysis.

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So no... it shouldn't be legalised but people who have got used to a life with it, unfortunately, would want it legalised and that's a shame in a world of so much opportunity and need for nothing, some of us fall fowl of drugs and even become advocates of it without even noticing how much it ruins our lives.


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