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Fuzzylogic 13-08-2010 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedape (Post 3655534)
Some good bits in there, some BS, but the part people on forums need to listen to is:



I don't think enough people complaining about the editing realize that their complaints are mostly confirmation bias. Seeking confirmation that it's all a nasty plot against their favorite or a nasty plot in favor of who they dislike. They're looking for bias with a fine comb, every second of every episode. It's a wonder they enjoy the show at all.

Well said :)

boomoo 13-08-2010 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedape (Post 3655534)
Some good bits in there, some BS, but the part people on forums need to listen to is:



I don't think enough people complaining about the editing realize that their complaints are mostly confirmation bias. Seeking confirmation that it's all a nasty plot against their favorite or a nasty plot in favor of who they dislike. They're looking for bias with a fine comb, every second of every episode. It's a wonder they enjoy the show at all.

Well it is all well and good for Editors to say this but often editors make a summary which bears no relation to what actually happened. They edit to their own preference not ours. Therefore we do not see the whole picture. Liking a person or not liking a person has nothing to do with viewers making up their minds. It is to do with what we are told.

To go away from housemates where it is easy to say we the viewer are biased I can give many examples of scientific edits in newspapers and they bear no relation to the true facts. So much so that scientists have had to write to papers and say the article was the opposite of the research.

Therefore we get our bias from the editors not the other way round.

Omah 13-08-2010 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by as90 (Post 3655460)
Not impressed, it's all a money making scheme for C4, it's throwing people the the lions. The guy sound a bit of a novice.

Yeah, he does ..... I wonder how he got the job ?

:conf:

ElProximo 13-08-2010 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzzylogic (Post 3655478)
That was a well thought out, eloquent, respectful and insightful post. The best thing i have read on these forums.

Totally agree. It was great reading that this afternoon and I hope everyone can see that great insight.
You wouldn't hear much about the 'inside story' but since the series is coming to an end its interesting.

Strange is how many people are acting like... lol.. harumphing and crossing their arms and "hmmph.. not good enough" lol.
Be thankful instead.

Jamietwo 13-08-2010 11:08 PM

why bother defending anything to DS forumites....good post though, a good example of someone with a life and job putting all the kids/unemployed and mental cases at DS in thier place

Omah 13-08-2010 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamietwo (Post 3656935)
why bother defending anything to DS forumites....good post though, a good example of someone with a life and job putting all the kids/unemployed and mental cases at DS in thier place

You'd think he'd have something better to do, though, like improve viewing figures and ratings ..... he's whistling in the wind while at the helm of a sinking ship ..... :joker:

Orvakki 13-08-2010 11:24 PM

Nice essay PEJ. A*

ElProximo 13-08-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 3656976)
You'd think he'd have something better to do, though, like improve viewing figures and ratings ..... he's whistling in the wind while at the helm of a sinking ship ..... :joker:

Why are you smucking your face and guffawing?

Answer: Stupidity

What you should know is that - in some cases - participating and interacting with forums DOES improve viewing figures and ratings.

Then you should know that BB11 actually did quite good this season and it looks like the final and 'ultimate BB' is going to do great numbers.

Keep this in mind as well - Big Brother UK has had MASSIVE GIGANTIC RATINGS,
and,
Even BB's lowest ratings would be considered mind-boggling for MOST television productions.
and,
BB is hardly a 'sinking ship' but is a series that ran FAR FAR LONGER THAN MOST ANY OTHER TELEVISION SERIES EVER DREAMS ABOUT,
and,
Is retiring while STILL ONE OF THE TOP RATED PROGRAMS OUT THERE.

So the only question left is:
Who the **** are you?

Shasown 14-08-2010 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamietwo (Post 3656935)
why bother defending anything to DS forumites....good post though, a good example of someone with a life and job putting all the kids/unemployed and mental cases at DS in thier place

Why not make a statement on one of the biggest Big Brother forums knowing that other people would cut and paste it and post it onto BB forums.

Not only does it spread the word about, or his version of the truth, it can provide him with information he may not necessarily easily find.

He gives it a few days then does a google(TM or similar) advanced search using a set of words from his statement that are slightly unusual ("Those of a high strung disposition" and "egenda") and sees on how many sites his words are quoted. Following the links to those sites would then allow him a wide variety of opiniuons he may not normally see etc.

Omah 14-08-2010 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3657589)
Why not make a statement on one of the biggest Big Brother forums knowing that other people would cut and paste it and post it onto BB forums.

Not only does it spread the word about, or his version of the truth, it can provide him with information he may not necessarily easily find.

He gives it a few days then does a google(TM or similar) advanced search using a set of words from his statement that are slightly unusual ("Those of a high strung disposition" and "egenda") and sees on how many sites his words are quoted. Following the links to those sites would then allow him a wide variety of opiniuons he may not normally see etc.

mmmmm ..... possible, but I think not - he does not appear to be that bright ..... :hugesmile:

Incensed 14-08-2010 10:50 AM

I found this particularly interesting.

"We also thought that because it's the last one on Channel 4"

Rather suggests that there will be more but taken over by another Channel, otherwise I think he would have said the last one ever.


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