Originally Posted by MassiveTruck (Post 3739086)

Who the hell gives you the right to call people bitter and cynical? You just want to throw around words like that just like you do with homophobia just to bring people down.

What bloody high horse do you exist on? I can't for the life in me ever remember meeting somebody online who thinks they've got a clear cut right to utterly rip apart people on a utterly pseudo, completely pseudo self-righteous assault.

So let me just give you a taste of the same medicine shall I.

You say you watched live feed? Then you must have seen her bitching and lying about other housemates on a regular basis for 8 weeks on the trot. If you didn't then it is clear you are lying and you are basing this whole situation on gross blind favouritism as an utter dislike for another housemate.

Now that we know that is clearly fact and utterly realistic that she was a vile individual who targeted individuals and lied about them, spreading vicious rumour and manipulation around the house - what do you like about that as an individual? Are these the grounds upon which you base your morality and ethics? It wouldn't surprise me with the way that you throw around accusation, insult and abuse on this forum to be honest so I am barely surprised at you enjoying the spectacle of somebody like Josie winning the show.

In fact... it appears to be a simple case of birds of a feather flock together, doesn't it?

And it is TV manipulation. Those of us who know the industry, who have worked with people, who have talked to professionals can see this occurring from miles off. We can read off accounts from World Wars and Radio broadcasts and see how masses of sheep clearly follow suit like lemmings off a cliff. It's such a simple phenomenon to observe that I for one can't see how somebody who treats the people around them like utter sh*te on a daily basis and stirs up trouble in the house can be seen by her fans to appear to live in some fairyland that those around them wouldn't take to task their belief that we can't see this and we are wrong even though we watched this on a regular daily basis and saw the lies.

It's utterly pathetic that you think we take this as a matter of course.

It's brutal manipulation. Clear and utter manipulation.

I could say, it is favouritism. It is bias. It's the same way that people look up to some cult leader and wouldn't like to give them blame but anybody who can't see how Sam Pepper came in to raise her profile along with Andrew, chose her over others who had more votes and then they had a vote to evict and also stirred up arguments to get them out

STILL thinks there was no manipulation...

does nothing... nothing at all.. for their credit and credability!!

It's blatant. If you couldn't see it in the final weeks, it beggars belief what else you can fall for.





Ha! You didn't watch live feed.



The world is doomed because that is not romance. It's idiotic. I pity any individual in the world who sees romance in that because they have not only not lived but they have no emotion to notice romance. Disgusting!...





LOL



NEWSFLASH!!

ALL TV manipulates. ALL OF IT DOES!! PMSL




No... we know better than that that's why we educate ourselves. The knowledge is out there. People like John De Mol make billions from it because they know people can be manipulated.

Don't you get it? Don't you really get it? Let me explain it to you.

They know how to manipulate you and TV was created for that sole purpose to sell you things by manipulating you.



You must be living in LA LA Land if you think the win and loss of this show matters. The win and loss of a monkey throwing competition in a pig sty in Glasgow doesn't bother me but if people manipulated millions because of it - you're damn right I'll laugh my head off at the people who were manipulated by it year on year.

Just as I laughed when they desperately wanted Mikey to win (and I know people at Endemol who will vouch for this) and Rachel won!

Just like I know how desperate they were and what lengths they went to for Josie to win!

There are some things you will never even get close to understanding. There are people who work in TV year after year and never grasp this and it's those that do that make the money... funnily enough they invest in products they sell at Asda/Sainsburys/Tescos...

Can you put the pieces together?