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30stone 28-09-2010 11:36 PM

Yes i know that but i just find that mentality wrong, im going out to injure another professional sportsman over next to nothing..
He was frankly a bit of a dick, in my opinion at least.

setanta 28-09-2010 11:39 PM

It's what made him the player he was. Don't agree with it myself, but for a guy like him it must have driven him mad to see a guy telling him he was a faker while he rolled around in agony.

30stone 28-09-2010 11:53 PM

Yeah it would piss you off but to still have that going round in your mind 3 years later? he must have had some problems lol.


It was wrong of him anyway and should have got a longer ban.

You can be aggressive, and you can be a wanker. in that match he was the latter.

setanta 28-09-2010 11:59 PM

I'd still have him over Gerrard though. Have him over most midfielders to be honest with you. He's a warrior.

30stone 29-09-2010 12:08 AM

Just is just class though.

works as hard.
is box to box despite what people have said.

Yet is a consistant finisher too.

setanta 29-09-2010 12:13 AM

He's not in the same league as Keane Ben. Really. Look, Gerrard can be great, but nah, Keane was incredible on a pitch in his prime.

30stone 29-09-2010 12:35 AM

Keane has become overated.

Not in the same league?? what are you talking about, Gerrard is one of the best players in the world right now..

setanta 29-09-2010 12:40 AM

No he's not. What's he won? Keane was the best in the business in his prime.

30stone 29-09-2010 12:44 AM

Whats Torres won? yet still considered the best striker in the world at times...
Whats fabregas won ? yet is also considered one of the best in the world.

Keane was never the best player in the world...

setanta 29-09-2010 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 30stone (Post 3816810)
Whats Torres won? yet still considered the best striker in the world at times...
Whats fabregas won ? yet is also considered one of the best in the world.

Keane was never the best player in the world...

I never said he was, but if you ask any of the greatest players of his era who would they have first on their team it would be Keane.

Locke. 29-09-2010 12:52 AM

If Gerrard played for Utd, Barcelona, Real Madrid, he would be considered the best player in the world. Because he plays for a team that don't win a trophy every year he is overlooked.

setanta 29-09-2010 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locke. (Post 3816822)
If Gerrard played for Utd, Barcelona, Real Madrid, he would be considered the best player in the world. Because he plays for a team that don't win a trophy every year he is overlooked.

Would have, could have, should have. He didn't, Keane did. I'm sorry, that's very important, plus Gerrard has never won a league title. That's a huge thing.

30stone 29-09-2010 12:58 AM

I disagree a lot of people wouldnt have wanted to play with him because of his aggressive nasty nature.


Underating Gerrard 100%.

Like i said Torres hasnt won the league either, and start of last season i think it was last season, people were saying he was the best striker in the world.. so..




Keane didnt tackle he went in to foul.
Without just kicking their legs.. he would be tormented by pacey skillful players like messi villa torres...

Locke. 29-09-2010 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by setanta (Post 3816823)
Would have, could have, should have. He didn't, Keane did. I'm sorry, that's very important, plus Gerrard has never won a league title. That's a huge thing.

It would have been a mistake moving abroad, rarely works out for English players. I can see why he stuck with us a few years ago when he was linked with Chelsea, but that was probably the wrong choice career wise for him (although i'm obviously glad that he stayed).

setanta 29-09-2010 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 30stone (Post 3816826)
I disagree a lot of people wouldnt have wanted to play with him because of his aggressive nasty nature.


Underating Gerrard 100%.

Like i said Torres hasnt won the league either, and start of last season i think it was last season, people were saying he was the best striker in the world.. so..




Keane didnt tackle he went in to foul.
Without just kicking their legs.. he would be tormented by pacey skillful players like messi villa torres...

And you don't think Gerrard goes in to foul sometimes or Torres? When Gerrard was playing in the centre rather than attacking midfield he was just as physical. Sure look what's happened since he was put back in that position - should have been sent off last weekend.

I don't subscribe to this theory that he was a thug, and as I said before, you ask the players of his era who they would have on their team and he'd be top of their lists.

30stone 29-09-2010 01:34 AM

lol yes maybe so but nothing like keane!
I just watched a video.. someone slide tackled him, so he decided to stamp on their balls and their stomach twice with some fury..
took a swing at shearer.. pushed a ref and attempted to headbutt one..

And as i said before a lot of players wouldnt want to play with him just down to his aggressive nature.

Legend killer 29-09-2010 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by setanta (Post 3816703)
He wanted to hurt him, that's all. It was stupid, but it didn't lead to the end of his career. That's a myth.

Yes this is true Haaland had to retire soon afterwards but it was down to injury on his other leg


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