I agree with the campaigns as democratic 'self-correcting mechanisms' and here is why:

In fact, Cher will be a great recording artist sensation for about 6 months. Okay. But even Simon is now pretending she is an amazing singer and they are deliberately doing this to keep their 'future good singer' (via recording studio techniques) getting massive commercial advert and hype each week.

So in a way the public is just countering this with their own 'fake loved act'.

Something like that.

I can't see Wagner winning, if he's ever in the sing-off hes going to go out because no judge will save him.. I hope he's out this week, after his rant about Simon and how the public don't want him to win because he's Brazilian I don't like him.

JEDWARD weren't arrogant, they are just young, full pf energy and enthusiasm, even the backroom people on X Factor said they loved working with them, they didn't complain,got on with what they had to do and rehearsed loads, I simply can't see the comparison of Wagner with Jedward at all, its rediculous to compare the 2.

I have seen them 'live', have also seen them when they have been talking to their fans and 2 more friendly and enthusiastic people would be hard to find.Some may dislike them, hate them even, but the fact is they are young, have massive confidence and sometimes its confidence that can be percieved as arrogance but it doesn't mean it really is.

I think people hated them because on their audition they sang over Sian Paley and she then got the boot and Jedward were put through. She was really good too I thought.

Wagner is fake. Did you not hear the recording of him slagging the show off.

Hes just a bitter old tramp who acts nice when the cameras are on.

Jedward weren't arrogant at all! D: Everyone said what nice guys they were and that, even Simon admitted he was wrong about them. Wagner will be getting arrogant the longer he stays in :bored:

I agree Jedward aren't arrogant, they deserved criticism but some of it was OTT because some do like to take it seriously:rolleyes:, it's just a big con.

I'm liking Wagner though a lot:D!.

If it works, it would be the ultimate in successful trolling. I'm all for it.

does this mean he's got an actual shot at winning this thing?....oh god

That was actually part of the reason I disliked them.

Jedward were always going to be put through, the producers and Simon Cowell knew the potential for the controversy, ratings and cash plus the divided opinions the Twins caused people to have.. the fans and detractors certainly loved the fuss and debates for the 7 weeks they lasted:joker:.

Were John and Edward really hated? Look at how far they got and look at what they have done since. They have went down as urban legends.

Well hated and loved by different people. They did get loads of hate... they would've come even better than 6th if it hadn't been for that bitch Dannii. So I guess they were more loved than hated. :love:

Wagner won't win, i'd say he will go this weekend or next. He won't get as far as John and Edward.

Dannii had a lot of sour grapes towards the Twins after Lucie left, not their fault they happened to get more votes than her act, Lucie on the other hand whilst being disappointed was dignified and is still friends with them now;).

These Facebook campaigns are pathetic, set up by people who think the four thousand "friends" they've got are real friends. Wagner is creepy and he can't sing. I don't get it... I just don't get it! I sing better than him and I'm a terrible singer.

I just find them irritating now. They were funny for five minutes.

I don't think Dannii had sour grapes at all; the reason she put them out was because she maintained it was a singing contest. Anyway, both Jedward and Olly have done well off the back of the show so I don't think it's that big a deal anymore :tongue:

Eugh... Wagner :L