Thanks so much for the welcome, I wish I could remember that exact exchange, but the face Cheryl Cole made last Sunday when Wagner's name was called reminded me of Govan's face when Corin told him to buck himself up and stop whingeing - or words to that effect :hugesmile:

That's when the whole charge of the Ben brigade started (memories):spin2:

Govan was just very bitchy but in a nasty, **it stiring way which doesn't come across well in the first few weeks.:nono:

He was a bit of a hobgoblin during the period he lurked in Josie's bed, like some familiar in the chamber of the Witch Queen. His main crime was going from group to group tittle tattling.

Are we supposed to know you ... ? :hugesmile:

Could you give us a clue ... ? :spin:

I didn't really mind Govan too much. Yes, he had a more bitchy and snidey side than some in that house, but that persona has become part and parcel of a few in BBs. When you think they have no TV, no reading materials, BB playing them off against each other, they can't really escape each other, no contact with family and friends and so on ... then I suppose it's no wonder they start the bitching and gossiping and also to start to play the BB game to keep themselves free from nominations maybe without always realising they are doing it? Plus most of the housemates got on with Govan, so maybe we just weren't being shown other sides to his personality if it didn't befit the BB plotline.

So unless a housemate goes way over the top in such behaviour I tend to accept those warts and all bits of their personalities in them and look to be entertained by them for the main.

But of those up that week, I was happy for Govan to be evicted over Ben :)

I never took to him. Boring and bland and only good for bitching & backstabbing. he'd sit with one group, bitch about others, then 10 minutes later, would be sitting with the group he'd been bitching about, and would bitch about those he'd previously been with. A boring little man.

i said that at the time but nobody listened to me as usual.

Remember Josie's hysterical (and I mean as in 'funny'), lying in the bathroom, devastated, sobbing her heart out when he was evicted....... sseessshhh....she'd known him for 5 minutes. :sleep:

My only complaint is that Govan didn't get to be as annoying as he was in the audition process. Seriously.. you saw just maybe 70% of Govan's shlt-stirring potential in BB.

Having said that - you really do look back and realize Govan wasn't even nearly as bad as some others turned out to be. I think he would have been better off staying and some others leaving,
however,
He went wrong regretting the 'bisexual' ruse and consequences in his community and the repeated interest in walking-out.
Once you start wanting to walk... it really seems fans and BB will oblige that fairly soon afterward.

But yeah, proud of him for getting in there. I lobbied for him and in a strange way saw him as a sort of 'little brother' or 'lived vicariously' through his experience. I feel like 'one of us' made it.
He did alright. Good job Govan. He was a part of our summer and BB experience and he left his mark.
Nothing to regret.

i agree with this,we are still talking about a housemate that left week 2 but we aint talking about steve are we:joker:

He didn't really last long enough to leave much of a mark really did he?

A mark for what? Being an annoying and pretty disloyal **** stirrer. ??? It's not the best of ways to be remembered really is it?

Oh yeah, I actually laughed at that. then felt a bit evil afterwards incase it actually was genuine...

I remember watching it and thinking she wasn't getting attention and this was a perfect opportunity to attract some!!! Massively over produced and perfect example of overacting. Christ, you'd thought she'd been told her family had just been executed.

It was extremelly OTT :hugesmile: and the crocodile tears massively overdone. Didn't she realise the BB auditioning was over now, or was this her way of securing her trip to the final with some sympathy votes. She needn't have worried, BB happily gave her a legs up to the final anyway.