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Tom4784 09-12-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NingleBells (Post 3980000)
saying you're following your heart is just another word for being selfish.

It's better to be selfish and happy then to be sad and stuck in a doomed relationship since you're preventing your partner from finding someone better too.

Niamh. 09-12-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacey. (Post 3980015)
Not really.. if you didn't ever follow your heart you'd never do exactly what you wanted. If that means being selfish then whatever.. everything you do should be for yourself.

It's selfishness simple as, if you ever want to have any sort of meaningful relationships you have to take other people into account as well. What sort of a person would you be stealing anyway if he's prepared to drop is wife/g/f for someone else? What would make you think he wouldn't do the same to you when someone new flutters their eyelashes at him?

Niamh. 09-12-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Prezzie (Post 3980022)
It's better to be selfish and happy then to be sad and stuck in a doomed relationship since you're preventing your partner from finding someone better too.

If you're in a doomed relationship though you should just split up, why do you need to be stolen?

Beastie 09-12-2010 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 3979949)
Something that has been annoying me for a bit, is it immoral to steal someone elses partner or is it just bad luck? Should you follow head or heart?

Follow your heart. However I would never go out of my way to "steal" someone's boyfriend or girlfriend. Love for me just naturally tends to come. I don't believe in "fighting" for love. If your love with another person is going to break apart then it just is. You can't control it. I do agree you need to "fight" for love more if you are like married but then there should be a breaking point when enough is enough! << Whether in a relationship or marriage but yeah you should work harder at a marriage! :)

Beastie 09-12-2010 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess (Post 3979961)
I don't think anyone should cheat,I think if you're in a relationship and you want to be someone else,then break up with the person you're with. A lot easier said than done a lot of the time,I know.

True. Usually most people then may have made the wrong choice. I do think if you have been or are in a long term relationship/marriage you may end up liking someone else. Most of the time them feelings just go. If not then avoid that person.

cub 09-12-2010 04:26 PM

This ugly camp bloke flirted outrageously with my ex it was a joke. Sadly, my ex couldn't resist and did it with him anyway. I was heartbroken. Not only because of the obvious but that the flirt was such an alcoholic, spotty dog anyway. My revenge came when I learned he'd given my ex an STD.

Beastie 09-12-2010 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowball (Post 3979962)
You can't steal someone who doesn't want to be 'stolen'.

True. It is there own silly fault for cheating in the first place!! You can't just blame the other person "for stealing them". I think there are a few horrible people out there who do have time on their hands and want to split up a relationship because they like the boy/girl. This is a minority and if they are successful with their mission it is still the boy or girl who cheated fault as well! Once you are in a relationship you can't control whether that person will cheat or not. Might as well give them the benefit of the doubt. Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. Plus there are plenty other fish in the sea. << Well maybe not if you are in your 30's/40's and you are single and want marriage and kids then. It would probably be harder to find a man/woman then! Mmm?

Tom4784 09-12-2010 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NingleBells (Post 3980042)
If you're in a doomed relationship though you should just split up, why do you need to be stolen?

Maybe you're staying together for the kids or for the benefit opf having someone there? There's plenty of reasons why people stay together but if people have a chance to be happy they should take it as staying together in a doomed relationship just makes all involved unhappy.

Beastie 09-12-2010 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NingleBells (Post 3979965)
I think it's immoral but obviously the boyfriend/Girlfriend is much more immoral. Though anyone who gets a stolen partner will most likely suffer the same fate in the future........

Hopefully. I love Karma :love:

Niamh. 09-12-2010 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Prezzie (Post 3980066)
Maybe you're staying together for the kids or for the benefit opf having someone there? There's plenty of reasons why people stay together but if people have a chance to be happy they should take it as staying together in a doomed relationship just makes all involved unhappy.

But the thing about it is, is that alot of the time the partner is completely unaware that there is anything wrong at all, I know this from experience btw(not my own) And I just think anyone who goes chasing someone who has a partner or a partner and kids is just well out of order and immoral.

Tom4784 09-12-2010 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NingleBells (Post 3980081)
But the thing about it is, is that alot of the time the partner is completely unaware that there is anything wrong at all, I know this from experience btw(not my own) And I just think anyone who goes chasing someone who has a partner or a partner and kids is just well out of order and immoral.

But if one person's unhappy then that'll pollute the relationship and the family. Sometimes breaking up is the best thing for parents as they can become happier which'll lead to a better atmosphere for the kids.

Pyramid* 09-12-2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by XmasPudding (Post 3980060)
True. It is there own silly fault for cheating in the first place!! You can't just blame the other person "for stealing them". I think there are a few horrible people out there who do have time on their hands and want to split up a relationship because they like the boy/girl. This is a minority and if they are successful with their mission it is still the boy or girl who cheated fault as well! Once you are in a relationship you can't control whether that person will cheat or not. Might as well give them the benefit of the doubt. Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. Plus there are plenty other fish in the sea. << Well maybe not if you are in your 30's/40's and you are single and want marriage and kids then. It would probably be harder to find a man/woman then! Mmm?

First part, totally true. Second part not so true! Plenty of fish out there!

But as you say, there's no need to cheat in the first place. Cheating is a way of 'try before you buy'..... with the 'one being cheated on' being used as a safety net in case the 'affair' doesn't work out.

It will still hurt the person, but if they loved you, they wouldn't want you to be in a relationship (even with you) if it made them unhappy.

Absolutely no need for it. End the current relationship and then move on - don't do it whilst you are in a relationship. Simple!

Legend killer 09-12-2010 04:44 PM

It's a dog eat dog world

Jack_ 09-12-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Prezzie (Post 3980016)
I suppose it depends on what your definition of 'stealing' someone is, do you consider it cheating on someone or leaving your partner for someone else or both? You can't help it if you fall for someone but you can help yourself cheating. If it was me I'd just break up with the person I'm with before anything happened as if I was looking it would obviously mean I'm not happy. It'd be less of a headache then cheating.

'Stealing' in this context to me means taking another person's partner off them, but without any cheating. So basically someone I like ends their relationship with their partner to be with me.

Tom4784 09-12-2010 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JackFrost (Post 3980115)
'Stealing' in this context to me means taking another person's partner off them, but without any cheating. So basically someone I like ends their relationship with their partner to be with me.

That's the context I've been thinking about it in.

I think that's fine, you can't stay with someone you no longer like and a quick break up now is better then a messier one later when you have responsibilities. It's probably Immoral to cheat and I wouldn't myself but I'm not about to judge others by my set of standards either.

Boothy 09-12-2010 05:29 PM

Nah, I'd never make a girl end a relationship with my mate so that she could enter a relationship with me. And their are two main reasons why:

- If a girl was willing to leave my best mate for me, who's to say she won't leave me for another guy later down the line?

- The relationship I have with my mates is not worth sacrificing for a girl. Not any girl. Barney Stinson says it best - Bros before hoes.

However, if my mate and said girl had already split up, I really liked this girl and my mate was 100% cool with it, then I'd consider being with her.

Shasown 09-12-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 3979949)
Something that has been annoying me for a bit, is it immoral to steal someone elses partner or is it just bad luck? Should you follow head or heart?

What are you going to do about the pregnant girlfriend? Or have you already binned her?

Judas 09-12-2010 05:43 PM

It depends, I think it is fine if it isn't just lust and you both actually feel some meaningfull. (That makes me sound really boring... but I'm sure you can judge how far lust alone should be taken :P). I don't think it is stealing or survival of the fittest, if you both think getting together is right then go for it, even though the other bloke will get hurt for abit.

Shaun 09-12-2010 05:48 PM

please don't confuse "being a pussy" with Darwinism.

Tom 09-12-2010 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3980191)
What are you going to do about the pregnant girlfriend? Or have you already binned her?

Shes no longer either.

LemonJam 09-12-2010 06:24 PM

Depends on the situation.

Rob 09-12-2010 06:25 PM

completely depends on the situation i think, if the boy/girl is willing to be stolen then it shows they are not 100% happy in their relationship and it would probably go wrong at some point anyhow.

Shasown 09-12-2010 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 3980302)
Shes no longer either.

Sorry to hear that. Can be a bit of a gut wrencher that.

Make sure you arent acting slightly irrationally as a result of any baggage from that though.

Niamh. 09-12-2010 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Prezzie (Post 3980099)
But if one person's unhappy then that'll pollute the relationship and the family. Sometimes breaking up is the best thing for parents as they can become happier which'll lead to a better atmosphere for the kids.

Yes, I understand that but being stolen away by someone else is not a good way to go about it and from what I've seen alot of the time people only decide they're unhappy when a new option comes on the scene, they usually regret it after when they realise that the love they thought they were missing was actually plain old lust!

BB_Eye 10-12-2010 12:36 AM

I wouldn't steal anybody else's partner and that's purely self-interest talking. I don't like the idea of living out a soap opera cliche and the chances are somebody who can lie to their own partner compulsively is not worth my time.


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