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Chuck 05-02-2011 08:23 PM

I dont doubt that she is fact an artist, but that's not what her work represents.

Smithy 05-02-2011 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck.pass (Post 4094831)
Bjork is an artist, Lady Gaga is an entertainer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck.pass (Post 4094833)
I dont doubt that she is fact an artist, but that's not what her work represents.

K, imma just let you argue with yourself

Jessica. 05-02-2011 08:24 PM

nevaa

Chuck 05-02-2011 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 4094835)
K, imma just let you argue with yourself

U know what I meant.

Shaun 05-02-2011 08:26 PM

-is a bit perplexed by people who laugh at the idea of Lady GaGa being an artist-

You can hate her pretentiousness, you can hate her music, you can hate her style and her image, but you can't really say she's not an artist. She writes, she plays, she performs, she tries to shock and let's be honest: it works. Her pop music is the best written in years.

I hate to use phrases like "haters gonna hate" but I really can't understand why people are against her so viciously. As for the Madonna thing...Madonna's hardly talented. Sure, she's way more important as a revolutionary figure, but come on. Stop attacking what's popular just because she isn't any more.

Ninastar 05-02-2011 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 4094842)
-is a bit perplexed by people who laugh at the idea of Lady GaGa being an artist-

You can hate her pretentiousness, you can hate her music, you can hate her style and her image, but you can't really say she's not an artist. She writes, she plays, she performs, she tries to shock and let's be honest: it works. Her pop music is the best written in years.

I hate to use phrases like "haters gonna hate" but I really can't understand why people are against her so viciously. As for the Madonna thing...Madonna's hardly talented. Sure, she's way more important as a revolutionary figure, but come on. Stop attacking what's popular just because she isn't any more.

:worship:

Chuck 05-02-2011 08:30 PM

1st - Im not a Gaga hater, I enjoy listening to her once in a while;
2nd - I didnt express myself properly, i shouldnt have said that she is not an artist, but I definetely dont think that her work represents art.

seanraff07 05-02-2011 08:40 PM

Now

Stu 05-02-2011 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 4094842)
-is a bit perplexed by people who laugh at the idea of Lady GaGa being an artist-

You can hate her pretentiousness, you can hate her music, you can hate her style and her image, but you can't really say she's not an artist. She writes, she plays, she performs, she tries to shock and let's be honest: it works. Her pop music is the best written in years.

I hate to use phrases like "haters gonna hate" but I really can't understand why people are against her so viciously. As for the Madonna thing...Madonna's hardly talented. Sure, she's way more important as a revolutionary figure, but come on. Stop attacking what's popular just because she isn't any more.

I agree on your first paragraph and also think it answers the second one. People hate her because - though there may be a bit of substance - a lot of people recognize that it is at the end of the day a case style over substance. Which is fine for pop. But it's the utterly blatant way she does it I suppose. Wearing outlandish outfits and posing rigor mortis in a way that is guaranteed to get her plastered in the sig and avatars of people who value those traits everywhere a day after the photoshoot because it 'just looks cool'.

She is no doubt a master at it. Probably one of the most effective cases of cult of image since our zany hipster western interpretation of Jesus Christ.

Shaun 05-02-2011 08:56 PM

Yeah. I agree with that - and I think the fans don't help.

Stu 05-02-2011 08:58 PM

She's a bit like Paramore. The fans drive me nuts and would render me unable to admit my true feelings for the band in public but they do have some nice beats when I think about it.

Smithy 05-02-2011 09:03 PM

Her duet with Elton John just leaked :amazed:

/offtopic

Zippy 05-02-2011 09:05 PM

I actually don't even hate her. Quite enjoy her music. What I hate is her obsessed followers and their OTT praise of her and their desperate desire to parade themselves as one of her children! Probably because theyre dull and dreary and think that attaching themselves to her glamorosity in such an obsessive way somehow makes them look more interesting. Er, no. Personality wise, Gaga is a dead donkey. At least Madonna had an arrogance and sexual predatory feist about her.

And disrespecting the woman that is quite blatantly her biggest influence and inspiration is both ignorant and disrespectful. Yes, I mean Madonna. I seriously doubt there would be a Lady Gaga without her. Sure of it, in fact.

ps; personally I couldnt care less about Madonna still being top bitch. Her place in music history is already set in stone and a few more number ones won't change sh!t. Nobody can stay at the top forever, thats just a fact. But she sure stayed there for a damn sight longer than just about any other popstar. Let's see if gaga is still talked about in over 20 years time. She certainly will not be top bitch.

Patrick 05-02-2011 09:05 PM

She should retire now, I just want to see her 'Monsters' cry and become depressed because believe me there would be some sad bastards that'd take a knife to their throat aswell the day she dies or stops making music.

Shaun 05-02-2011 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 4094909)
Her duet with Elton John just leaked :amazed:

/offtopic

PM me now. xoxoxooop[zzos[co

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 05-02-2011 09:06 PM

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Zippy 05-02-2011 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott (Post 4094915)

I suspect all gaga obsessives look a bit like that.

Smithy 05-02-2011 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 4094912)
She should retire now, I just want to see her 'Monsters' cry and become depressed because believe me there would be some sad bastards that'd take a knife to their throat aswell the day she dies or stops making music.

you're a disgusting excuse for a human being

Smithy 05-02-2011 09:10 PM

Scott :mad:

Shaun 05-02-2011 09:12 PM

The duet sounds promising...it sounds very Beatles inspired. Any news on the Bowie collaboration? :o

Smithy 05-02-2011 09:13 PM

Yeah someone else said that!

And as of now it's still a rumor, but a rumor called Vinyl :lovedup:

Patrick 05-02-2011 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 4094924)
you're a disgusting excuse for a human being

How exactly?

:bored:

Is it because you know you're probably one of the GaGa fans that would gather together to commit suicide the day she retires?

k.

Smithy 05-02-2011 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 4094932)
How exactly?

:bored:

Is it because you know you're probably one of the GaGa fans that would gather together to commit suicide the day she retires?

k.

No, it's the fact you get pleasure out of other people's pain

Zippy 05-02-2011 09:20 PM

he thinks Patricks a disgusting human being but Im the one he has on ignore?

wow God knows what he must think of me!

wake me up when I give a fck...

Zippy 05-02-2011 09:33 PM

damn I was about to quote that, Scott!

*Scott just deleted a post


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