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I am English but I don't agree England should have "the power". Like I said.. England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland should be equals. I know that people are probably paranoid because David Cameron is English and is the PM. Personally I live in the North of England and I think places like London are too overcrowded and I wouldn't want to live there but it's still a nice place to visit. London has the power. The rest of England doesn't. |
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Beast, leave the political spiel to people who know politics.
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Amen! |
Ireland rejoining the UK? Get real, noone in the UK wants that and noone in Ireland wants that, would never happen.
Anyway to answer the question, I support free trade among European countries, and freedom of movement, but I dont support a political and social Union like we have now. The "President" of Europe is some Belgian who noone knows and nobody elected, hardly democratic |
If we ever had a referendum like we should have I vote 100% NO.
I would want England to become totally separate from Scotland and Wales, becoming Kingdom of England. Scotland and Wales become independent countries. Ireland should be one country too. England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales all hold on to the donkeys tails :joker: |
The legislative nature of the EU is greatly exaggerated - I saw Nigel Farage on the 10 O Clock Live show claiming they account for about 75% of all of our legislation now - when in fact the real figure is about 30% maximum. The majority of these laws are also quite trivial - agricultural, some small economic laws... not that I wish demean their importance, but I think euro-skeptics try to spread the impression that the EU is about to make us all learn German, French, Italian, Spanish and Polish, whilst surrendering our sovereign independence.
I also think it would be foolish to distance ourselves from it because of the economic benefits. Saying 'fack off' to your biggest next-door trade neighbours would be foolish. I think generally there's a lot of, dare I say it, xenophobia amongst the English. The Scottish and Welsh generally seem to be in favour of closer European ties, but the English have this "we hate the ______" attitude to pretty much everyone :laugh: and it doesn't really help that every other day The Sun is publishing a whole new "OMG EU WANTS US TO TAKE IN 200,000 BULGARIANS" scare story. Wasn't there a referendum a couple of years ago to see if we'd adopt the Euro? I really don't get what's so "British" about the Pound, it's just a coin with an unelected sponger on it :conf2: I guess I'm a bit of a Europhile :lovedup: |
I'd prefer we were more like Switzerland (I think we could learn a lot from the Swiss actually), founder of the European Free Trade Association, and has good relations with Europe but it doesnt entail itself in the EU
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they hate us for colonising their country and we hate them for Jedward, Westlife and Louis Walsh. Just to spare you the read. |
I voted yes to the question on this thread above to remaining in the EU, but I think there should be attempts to re-negotiate a lot of what we signed up to.
I also think its time to have a new referendum on Europe as to whether we stay in or come out, a decision for the people to make binding on the govt.. I was reading a book on the last referendum held in the 70s and that was more a trading concern as a member of the European community. Things have changed massively since then. To the comments of why should the Republic of Ireland remain an island on its own and not be part of the UK, why on earth should they be part of the UK, 1) they wouldn't want to be anyway and 2) who can blame them for that. |
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Why withdraw from the EU? It does far more good than harm. |
Yes we should remain a part of the EU.
Though many forget, the economic benefits of the EU outweigh the detriments, for instance if we were to leave the EU then we would have to still have to comply with EU trading laws if we wish to trade with them still and we would have no say in what those laws were anymore. Being part of the EU also makes it easier for us to trade with nations on the continent. Secondly, being part of the EU makes it so easy to travel around the continent. Moving from country to country has never been easier - we'd love all that if we were to leave. |
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The EU is by no means perfect. Nothing political involving many types of politics can ever be perfect.
That's no reason to leave it. Unfortunately those that are rather stupid or unscrupulous in politics love to use the EU as a scape goat for Britains problems......Nothing could be further from the truth. Britains problems are caused by British polititions and indeed many British people who love to jump on unintelligent "ANTI" this or that bandwagons |
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I basically agree with most of what Shaun said, apart from the end bit. (There has never been, and I predict in the next 10 years atleast, never will be, a referendum on switching to the euro).
For the time being I feel that keeping our currencies seperate is a good idea, and my views on that matter are unlikely to change in looking at the current climate. However, I think every other part of the EU benefits us as a nation. I don't think our sovereignty is being challenged, and even if it were to be, I feel that we would still be able to withdraw this challenge to our powers easily, as the EU would be unlikely to act against these measures. |
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Thank goodness we have retained our own currency, but I'm sick to death of us having to contribute to the bailing out of countries that have failed with the Euro - Greece, Eire, and now Portugal. |
I see many people from the UK are starting to love their chains and couldn't envision living without them. The EU taking over your country is probably the most important issue the UK faces. You should get out while you still can.
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We would have had it now if in the early 90s after we joined the ERM that had that venture been successful, the next step would have been to adopt the Euro. Labour also wnated the Euro under Tony Blair,he was ready to go for it for the UK, but Gordon Brown as Chancellor blocked him doing so, one of the good things Brown actually did. If the terms and time was right I still believe a UK govt will do it eventually,finding a way to do so without a binding referendum from the people. |
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