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Zippy 15-04-2011 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 4199611)
Olly may have gone down the same route had he won and then with Joe able to do his own thing the roles may have reversed.

exactly

the media are always much easier on the losers. They want the winner to fail. Being the underdog is always cooler. Ollies music may have turned out very different if he'd won.

cub 15-04-2011 08:19 PM

So, of the seven X Factor winners, there is just Leona, Alexandra, Matt and Shayne left.

Shayne's last album was hardly steller. Is he next?

Doogle 15-04-2011 08:27 PM

I was so angry when Joe won.

This made me so happy when I heard this. Although to be honest it took its time.

Olly and Stacey were 1000000x better. He annoyed me and his voice wasn't that good in my opinion. Fingers crossed Matt Cardle gets dropped too.

joeysteele 15-04-2011 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 4199669)
exactly

the media are always much easier on the losers. They want the winner to fail. Being the underdog is always cooler. Ollies music may have turned out very different if he'd won.

Completely in agreement with you Zippy.

_Seth 15-04-2011 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 4199572)
does he?

you can't just go be a science teacher after youve won something as big as XFactor!

It was a joke between me and Jack. ;) :p

GypsyGoth 15-04-2011 09:27 PM

I'm not surprised, and at least he got a chance at being a popstar.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 15-04-2011 11:07 PM

atleast phlip has more of a chance now :amazed:

Stu 15-04-2011 11:09 PM

Wonder what Mark 'Joe McElderry Fan' Waldorf is up to these days. Apart from being a bit gay.

MeMyselfAndI 15-04-2011 11:10 PM

LOL, poor Joe. I bought his album, it's not bad. But Olly>Stacey>Joe

\PJ/ 15-04-2011 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4200181)
Wonder what Mark 'Joe McElderry Fan' Waldorf is up to these days. Apart from being a bit gay.

I thought of him as soon as I saw this because he was the only person I knew who liked him, well him and my nan.


Him being dropped was going to happen, he will probably go into the west end and stay there for ever more.

Marsh. 15-04-2011 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cub (Post 4199865)
just Leona, Alexandra, Matt and Shayne left.

Lol, debatable.

_Seth 16-04-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott (Post 4200179)
atleast phlip has more of a chance now :amazed:

No. It's too late. I'm over him.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4200181)
Wonder what Mark 'Joe McElderry Fan' Waldorf is up to these days. Apart from being a bit gay.

Same. :(
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Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI (Post 4200182)
LOL, poor Joe. I bought his album, it's not bad. But Olly>Stacey>Joe

I hate to say it, but his album is quite unoriginal and forgettable.

Callum 16-04-2011 02:44 PM

Not surprising at all really.

Callum 16-04-2011 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cub (Post 4199865)
So, of the seven X Factor winners, there is just Leona, Alexandra, Matt and Shayne left.

Shayne's last album was hardly steller. Is he next?

He will be next, there's no doubt about it. His album was a poor seller, got to 15 in the charts and fell off the next week.

Vicky. 16-04-2011 02:47 PM

Those saying olly should have won...he would likely have had the same fate. He is unlikely to have been able to bring out the kind of music that he wanted or anything.

Plus, Olly was ****e on TXF. Hes good now, but he was bad on the program :p

MeMyselfAndI 16-04-2011 03:30 PM

Olly was amazing on TXF :conf:

It should of went
1) Olly
2) Danyl
3) Lucie

Vicky. 16-04-2011 03:31 PM

Meh, didnt like him at all

And it was a total travesty that lucie didnt make the final :bored:

Sam:) 17-04-2011 10:54 AM

I liked him on the show but when he brought his album out I knew he was going to be dropped

Pyramid* 17-04-2011 11:02 AM

Let's be honest...the guy was truly average - in every way. he never was going to make it big.

cub 17-04-2011 11:14 AM

He was easily the best singer in the competition of his year. Let's be fair.
Olly, since the show, has made the more interesting records though.

joeysteele 17-04-2011 11:44 AM

Looking at just the Winners though, of the 7 that have won 5 were male singers,2 were female singers,
The 2 female winners have had really good success and are established now,but the male acts that won have in truth struggled.

Steve Brookstein,Leon Jackson,fell very quickly from the limelight.

Joe has struggled massively since the first single and his album,although making 3 in the charts disappeared quickly. I do feel sorry for Joe because he is a good guy.
Shayne Ward never got the heady success of his first 2 singles either although he is still 'just' around.

Matt,we have to wait and see what happens next.

It would seem from that, either the wrong winner is chosen each year,or, more effort from Simon and co was put in to the Female singers careers.
Likely it's both but on that record,I don't think if I was in it, I would actually want to win it unless I had some freedom and say over what I recorded and released and more to the point when things were released too.

cub 17-04-2011 01:04 PM

I think those that won mostly deserved to win their year. The only exception would be Leon Jackson.

However there is a HUGE gap between winning a TV talent show and being current enough to have a lasting career. Leona and Alexandra won and reflect what's in the charts. Leona is rumoured to having an image and sound revamp for her next album.

cub 19-04-2011 10:05 AM

Shayne Ward dropped now

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/s1...ell-label.html

This just leaves Leona and Alexandra, and Matt of course (who must be worried as the only X Factor male winner on SyCo's books).

Benjamin 19-04-2011 10:08 AM

What a shame. :bored:

-waits for the day Matt Cardle is dropped (senses that will be this time next year)-

Z 25-04-2011 05:19 AM

Joe definitely deserved to win the show, he consistently came out and gave a flawless vocal performance - he was very drab and it was very clear from the outset that he was going to flop as a pop star because he was never portrayed as one; just as a very good singer. He'll definitely carve himself out a career performing in musicals, I think that's the next logical step for him and there's absolutely no shame in it, it's just a pity for him that he had to go through all that disappointment. At least now that he's been dropped he can do what he wants, I hope he's taking it as a blessing in disguise rather than another nail in the coffin. Olly is by far the superior pop star but he was terrible on the live shows, at least he's doing well now though. Matt Cardle be warned, a good voice is not always enough.


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