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Omah 21-04-2011 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 4208617)
There are often other people inadvertently involved like wives and children who are totally innocent and suffering enough already. Why should their names be dragged through the media?
They already are, except for the filthy rich - local and national rags and mags cover "marital infidelity" with alacrity and enthusiasm ..... :wink:

Husband froze to death as he cheated on wife

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Syed Hussain, 29, had parked in a garage with Shabana Akhtar as temperatures plunged to -10C (14F) during the freezing weather last December – but died after the lovers of three years fell asleep.
Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson’s ‘test drive fun’ with leggy mistress
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BRAZEN Jeremy Clarkson took his “leggy” mistress for a spin in a Maserati – then bragged about it in a newspaper column.

Clarkson, 50 – caught cheating on loyal wife Frances with TV colleague Phillipa Sage, 42 – invited the blonde on a test drive more than a year ago during the New Zealand leg of the Top Gear Live tour. The thrilled TV presenter and his companion were chauffeured around in the £80,000 sports car by a driver called Nigel.

Real 21-04-2011 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 4208624)
They already are, except for the filthy rich - local and national rags and amags cover "marital infidelity" with alacrity and enthusiasm ..... :wink:
If they have anything to hide then they shoudnt do it in the first place. :xyxwave:

Real 21-04-2011 11:47 PM
Lets take an example- Imogen from BB- A Prem footballer with wife and family has been there and now requested anonimity through the high courts to keep him safe? WTF? He knows the rules- keep it at home. How would any normal person be able to keep their identity out of the news?Load of bollocks IMO. One rule for the Rich and another for the poor. He knew what he was he was doing and should be made to face the consequencies. Am surprised it hasnt been leaked on foreign websites .

Zippy 21-04-2011 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Real (Post 4208651)
Lets take an example- Imogen from BB- A Prem footballer with wife and family has been there and now requested anonimity through the high courts to keep him safe? WTF? He knows the rules- keep it at home. How would any normal person be able to keep their identity out of the news?Load of bollocks IMO. One rule for the Rich and another for the poor. He knew what he was he was doing and should be made to face the consequencies. Am surprised it hasnt been leaked on foreign websites .
but if it were your average Joe it wouldnt be all over the media anyways so thats rather a moot point.

and its been leaked everywhere btw. Keep up, love.

Omah 21-04-2011 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Real (Post 4208651)
Lets take an example- Imogen from BB- A Prem footballer with wife and family has been there and now requested anonimity through the high courts to keep him safe? WTF? He knows the rules- keep it at home. How would any normal person be able to keep their identity out of the news?Load of bollocks IMO. One rule for the Rich and another for the poor. He knew what he was he was doing and should be made to face the consequencies.
Yeah, I absolutely agree .... ;)

GypsyGoth 21-04-2011 11:57 PM
So Joe Cole had an affair with Ewan McGregor!!! :shocked:

Omah 21-04-2011 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 4208656)
but if it were your average Joe it wouldnt be all over the media anyways so thats rather a moot point.
Oh no ?

:rolleyes: .....

Teacher ‘groomed pupil for sex’

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A PUPIL has told a court how a Blackpool teacher plied her with booze while grooming her for sex when she was just 14.

Preston Crown Court heard how the teenager turned to Caroline French as she began to have problems in her home life and became confused over her sexuality.

A jury heard how lifts home from school quickly progressed into a “full on kiss” and a sexual relationship between the pair.

But the 38-year-old, who was a drama teacher at a Blackpool high school at the time, denies the allegations, claiming she is not gay and her former pupil is lying.

Zippy 22-04-2011 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 4208673)
Oh no ?

:rolleyes: .....

Teacher ‘groomed pupil for sex’
:nono: thats about a sensational under age scandal which breaks the law and moral taboos. Hardly the same as somebody cheating on their wife.

MTVN 22-04-2011 12:05 AM
Definitely, privacy is a fundamental right for everyone, how is someone's sexual life any business of the general public. There are certain things the public have a right to know, the actions of their government for example, but the private life of an individual is not one of them

Omah 22-04-2011 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 4208679)
:nono: thats about a sensational under age scandal which breaks the law and moral taboos. Hardly the same as somebody cheating on their wife.
Botox doctor's sexual liaison with dominatrix in his surgery

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A cosmetic surgeon performed a sex act on a dominatrix after she turned up for Botox treatment dressed ‘like a prostitute’.

Dr Tony Walker, 53, said he felt Marion Burton had been offering a ‘sexual invitation’ when she arrived in a ‘tartish’ low-cut top, stockings and high heels. She secretly filmed their liaison using a camera hidden in her handbag before using the footage to try to blackmail him for £20,000 – which led to her husband Terry being jailed for three-and-a- half years. But now Dr Walker faces being struck off by the General Medical Council.

Mrs Burton, 51, became a dominatrix known as Mistress J after losing her job as a mortgage broker, and was earning £5,000 a month.

Yesterday Dr Walker, a father of two, told a GMC hearing that ‘sexual contact’ twice took place between them at his clinic.

He said the first time was in August 2008, when she performed a sex act on him while he was standing with a Botox needle in one hand and a swab in the other.
Tory MP James Gray secretly marries mistress he romanced while wife battled breast cancer
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A Tory MP has secretly married the woman he cheated with while his wife was battling breast cancer.

After tying the knot with Philippa Mayo in a register office on Saturday, James Gray smiled: "She's taking on a handful, it must be quite a tough job to be married to me."

The North Wiltshire MP, 54, shocked party officials and supporters when details of his affair with mum-of-three Mrs Mayo, 46, came out in 2006.

His wife of 26 years Sarah was having chemotherapy at the time.

Tom4784 22-04-2011 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 4208457)
The point is that, whoever you are, if you are married with children and involved in say, dubious sexual practices with a third party, newspapers are free to print the details, unless you shell out £50k in the High Court for an injunction to stop them, so only the wealthy are protected by these "unofficial" privacy laws, while ordinary people have no such protection - "ordinary" could, of course, include people with local social or civic status, such as athletes, teachers or councillors .....

So, if you're Mr Clean and Wholesome and being used by Coca-Cola International to sell Coke to kids, the company will drop you like stone if it is publicly disclosed that you're sh*****g underage *****s before appearances with their name on your shirt (or worse, while you're wearing their name on your shirt ) - several million pounds a year suddenly disappears from your bank accounts, to be followed by ever more losses as other sponsors pull out ..... unless you pay members of the legal and judicial system to prevent the public disclosure of your sordid "private" life .....
It's only the celebrities who'll have their dirty laundry aired in national magazines though, I doubt The Sun would publish a story about Sandra down the road having it off with the postman. Your Average Joe doesn't need media injunctions from the High Courts. I just think that Fame shouldn't mean that you have to have your whole life played out in front of the cameras especially when a lot of people would rather be anonymous. Not everyone wants to be Katie Price.

At the end of the day Actors, Sportsmen, Musicians ETC are just jobs, I don't think that the public are entitled to knowing the inner workings of these people's lives, It doesn't matter how much money they earn they still should have the same rights as anybody else.

One thing I'm aware of is marketing and advertising, there's no need to explain anything to me about sponsorships and the like. Your point about Sponsorships doesn't mean anything, just because someone promotes a product doesn't mean that they sign away their rights to a private life.

King Gizzard 22-04-2011 01:25 AM
No. Said celebritie's atheletes shouldn't be doing what they're doing in the first place.

Omah 22-04-2011 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 4208733)
I doubt The Sun would publish a story about Sandra down the road having it off with the postman.
But the Yorkshire Post might :

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/...rder_1_2307402

'Horny goat' wife in Leeds postman love triangle guilty of attempted murder

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Joanne Hale was having an affair with a married man she met on the internet before plying her husband Peter with a sex drug and taking him to woodland in Stoke Park, Bristol.

Hale, 39, sobbed as she was found guilty of attempted murder by majority verdict at Bristol Crown Court.

Hale had struck up a relationship over the internet with married postal worker Philip Sudol who had travelled from Leeds to Bristol for a romantic liaison.

MTVN 22-04-2011 01:56 AM
Firsty that's only a local paper and secondly the report is primarily on the fact that, you know, she tried to kill her husband

Omah 22-04-2011 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4208882)
Firsty that's only a local paper and secondly the report is primarily on the fact that, you know, she tried to kill her husband
Nevertheless, I've proved my point - the news is (rightly) out there, unless you pay the judiciary to have it suppressed without recourse to the law of the land as approved by Parliament..... :wink:

Zippy 22-04-2011 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 4208898)
Nevertheless, I've proved my point - the news is (rightly) out there, unless you pay the judiciary to have it suppressed without recourse to the law of the land as approved by Parliament..... :wink:
Money always has and always will talk. Its the reality of life.

but if youre that famous then the story will come out regardless. Just like it is doing with the Imogen saga. Personally Im grateful to be spared the graphic details.

Omah 22-04-2011 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 4208906)
Money always has and always will talk. Its the reality of life.
My point proved again - one law for the rich, another for the poor ..... :sad:

So, the innocent wives and children of the the poor but "wayward" husband have always suffered, and always will, and the innocent wives and children of the the rich but "wayward" husband will have always had their lifestyles maintained, and always will ..... :rolleyes:

Say la vee, nest pass ..... :shrug:

Tom4784 22-04-2011 12:17 PM
Crime reports and gossip reports are completely incomparable and different. All the stories you've linked to have been primarily about crime or malpractice in the workplace. You've been unable to provide an example of an average person being reported in a paper for simply cheating which would be a comparable example but normal people aren't at risk of that since the media only care about celebrities so they will report every little thing that happens to them so I don't blame them for seeking injunctions because I wouldn't want all my mistakes revealed to the world simply because of who I am.

Livia 22-04-2011 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 4208434)
Everyone has a right to a private life, just because you're envious of their income doesn't mean they are less deserving of it.
Actually, I don't think it has anything to do with being envious... I do hate that "you're just jealous" mentality. It has to do with the fact that these people SELL their lives to the media, they make shed-loads of money out of it, they become role models to young people and then they think they can flout all the rules and remain anonymous. I expect Ryan Giggs thought that when he shagged Imogen... but is there anyone alive that doesn't know it was him? People are notoriously bad at keeping juicy secrets.

Don't use the press to enhance your image, further your career and add to your bank balance, and then bleat on about privacy when they catch you with your trousers down.

Shaun 22-04-2011 07:09 PM
Yes. Mostly because it's not any of my business.

With regard to notorious killers (Ian Huntley, Maxine Carr) I genuinely don't understand the media furore about them. Yes, what they did was unforgivable. But what exactly is going around media sites, spouting endless streams of "THYE SHOULD BE HUNG DRAWN AND QUARTERED" and other such medieval pourings of hatred - what does this achieve? It's just sensationalism at its very worst.

Tom4784 22-04-2011 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4209574)
Actually, I don't think it has anything to do with being envious... I do hate that "you're just jealous" mentality. It has to do with the fact that these people SELL their lives to the media, they make shed-loads of money out of it, they become role models to young people and then they think they can flout all the rules and remain anonymous. I expect Ryan Giggs thought that when he shagged Imogen... but is there anyone alive that doesn't know it was him? People are notoriously bad at keeping juicy secrets.

Don't use the press to enhance your image, further your career and add to your bank balance, and then bleat on about privacy when they catch you with your trousers down.
I think it does have to do with money considering his posts about the rich later on but I guess you haven't read that far yet.

You're tarring everyone with the same brush and it's a bit stupid to do so, Not all celebrities use the media in how they describe it. Not all of them choose to be at the mercy of the paparazzi so why deny them the right to a private life just because they earn more money then the rest of us, they're still human and they are still prone to mistakes. We don't get our dirty secrets revealed on a national scale if we make it a mistake so why is it okay for their privacy to go out the window just because of their income?

The whole 'Role Model' thing is just a poor excuse for bad parents to pass the buck with. Like any well raised and adjusted child would see Tiger Woods and think 'One day I'll cheat like that because anything Tiger Woods does is worth emulating!'

Like I said before though, not everyone is Katie Price,

Marsh. 22-04-2011 09:41 PM
Wish someone would slap an injuntion on Katie Price's life and all the other idiots who's "profession" seems to be getting filmed doing bugger all yet rolling in money.

Whether she wants it or not ban the media from bothering with her. Disgusting creature.

zotler. 22-04-2011 10:06 PM
What if someone is sorry for their crime? Does that not matter? Of course, you can't assume everyone is but those that are - will they be able to start over after their punishment if people are punching them as they walk down the street?

Marsh. 22-04-2011 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 4208878)
But the Yorkshire Post might :

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/...rder_1_2307402

'Horny goat' wife in Leeds postman love triangle guilty of attempted murder
That's different. She tried to KILL him.

Omah 23-04-2011 09:25 PM
Is this the most absurd super-injunction ever?
 
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/04...junction-ever/

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The order involves a mother – referred to as ‘M’ – who is seeking court permission to let her brain-damaged daughter die.

The super-injunction covers media coverage of the ongoing case. The court order bans journalists communicating with M or any other member of her family: “whether orally in person, or by telephoning, text message, email or other means”.

The Court of Protection specifically bans all journalists from contacting 65 people or coming within 50m of four properties.

Flouting that ban risks being found guilty of contempt of court, which could mean a fine or prison.

But guess what? We don’t know who those people are or what properties the court refers to.
:laugh2:


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