Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4242695)

I like your discussion style. You disagree and call me a moron?

All you have done is identify with your accusation

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4240317)

What is the obsession with this silly phrase?

Everytime a celeb dies forums are full of RIP so and so.

They are dead, not resting and there is no peace as there is no heaven and hell?

What is it with some people?:nono:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4240333)

:joker:

Straight answerin' as ever. The Babylon have not outpaced me yet.

Come on. Where's Jesus gone?

Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 4242716)

I point you to your first post.



You may not like the term but no need to be offensive to those that do.

Plus, as someone else said R.I.P. isn't just a religious reference.
My nan's sister died a couple of weeks ago and for the last 20/30 years of her life suffered with terrible illnesses, constantly in and out of hospital, bed ridden for the last 4 years. So "Rest in Peace" is an apt sign of respect to someone who has been freed from any pain they were suffering.

And it's used as a part of the grieving process. It's hard to deal with losing a very closed loved one as it is without people like you ridiculing it and saying ridiculous things like "bulldoze graveyards".
The main reason for graveyards is for relatives to have somewhere to visit to remember them by and reflect on their life or feel close to them.

Did you like that discussion style?

Originally Posted by arista (Post 4242749)

He is working in B&Q

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4242827)

Yes, and he is doing wonders with the water features

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4242824)

The main reason for graveyards is religion

Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 4242881)

Them being in churches... bit obvious.

I'm talking about people, regardless of whether their religious or not want a place to respect their dead loved ones and remember them.

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4242842)

* Wonders if Leather Trumpet and Serious Debates are a contradiction of terms. *

I really can't see you being serious about the thread you've started. :bored:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4242895)

get back to your soup and stop marking threads by your own tiresome standards

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4242902)

Serious debates (which is very self explanatory) I think is Tibbs standards. Not mine. :)

See this is now in General Chat !!! lol At least that's a bit more appropriate!

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4242909)

if you want to be a mod just email and ask them:xyxwave:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 4242913)

Well I'd rather wish for my friend/relative/partner to no longer be in suffering than to not say anything at all. What would you have people say instead of R.I.P., LeatherTrumpet?

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4242927)

Say what you wish just avoid the tired cliche of rip.

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 4242913)

Well I'd rather wish for my friend/relative/partner to no longer be in suffering than to not say anything at all. What would you have people say instead of R.I.P., LeatherTrumpet?

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4242958)

Very good point. Many people have suffered great pain before they die - years of pain and suffering all of kinds that many of us could not imagine. I agree, it's a respectful wish, and hoping that their suffering (of whatever sort) may now be over.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4242987)

Yes lets hope they rest in peace and dont get resurrected into heaven or worse still end up in hell for eternity

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4243007)

I don't think there's any real need to be 'sarcastic'. Many people do believe in such thiings - and I'd say it was pretty disrespectful to mock that, them, or their belief.

I personally don't believe in that - but many religions do believe in such things. I think it's a bit crass to mock somone simply because you don't share their belief. Having a difference of opinion is understandable, one still has be be respectful of how others beliefs are important to them thought it may not be to everyones.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4243036)

I dont think any adult really believes that, they may hope it is true or that it is not but no one believes such utter unmitigated pish.

No religion deserves respect because it is based on lies and intolerance.

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4243007)

I don't think there's any real need to be 'sarcastic'. Many people do believe in such thiings - and I'd say it was pretty disrespectful to mock that, them, or their belief.

I personally don't believe in that - but many religions do believe in such things. I think it's a bit crass to mock somone simply because you don't share their belief. Having a difference of opinion is understandable, one still has be be respectful of how others beliefs are important to them thought it may not be to everyones.

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 4243045)

I don't think you are going to get anywhere Pyramid,However,leather trumpet, The voice of reason (Lord help us), is incorrect on many issues in his/her posts,for instance:- Cemeteries are not in Church grounds and many people are buried not for religious ideals but because some people believe that as we have to be formed so there may be a reason for the natural decomposition process too.
Churchyards are the burial areas attached to a Church or in its grounds, Cemeteries are not.

Many non religious people and Atheists are buried in Cemeteries that have no Church or Chapel in them or parts with no consecrated ground either.

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 4243045)

I don't think you are going to get anywhere Pyramid,However,leather trumpet, The voice of reason (Lord help us), is incorrect on many issues in his/her posts,for instance:- Cemeteries are not in Church grounds and many people are buried not for religious ideals but because some people believe that as we have to be formed so there may be a reason for the natural decomposition process too.
Churchyards are the burial areas attached to a Church or in its grounds, Cemeteries are not.

Many non religious people and Atheists are buried in Cemeteries that have no Church or Chapel in them or parts with no consecrated ground either.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4243055)

The main reason for graveyards is religion. That is the main reason. They are outdated and will, like religion, die out.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4242987)

Yes lets hope they rest in peace and dont get resurrected into heaven or worse still end up in hell for eternity

Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 4243064)

Obviously the idea of heaven has completely bypassed you. Do you know what resurrected means?