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Ithinkiloveyoutoo 30-05-2011 06:26 PM

be nice to people. if they can't appreciate that niceness or see the kindness as false, sod 'em to hell :D

Zippy 30-05-2011 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo (Post 4272865)
be nice to people. if they can't appreciate that niceness or see the kindness as false, sod 'em to hell :D

see, I aspire to be nice but its just not my natural default setting. Then when I force it it feels false. Kinda like a photo smile.

plus I also have very low tolerance levels.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 30-05-2011 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 4273004)
see, I aspire to be nice but its just not my natural default setting. Then when I force it it feels false. Kinda like a photo smile.

plus I also have very low tolerance levels.

Oh comeon Zippy. Everyone can find that natural default niceness within them. Search deeper

Harry! 31-05-2011 01:03 AM

Absolutely No Requests - Because once you have done something you can't change it.

I do stand but the treat people how you want to be treated line as I was bullied in the past and do believe people should be nicer to one another.

ElProximo 31-05-2011 01:55 AM

Wow the depth of discourse and philosophy here. The average UK morality seems to have been reduced to:
I dunno. Be nice I guess?

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

Kerry 31-05-2011 02:35 AM

See both sides of things (not easy I know)

To, no matter what, tell my family I love them daily. I can NEVER let my daughter go to bed without a hug and me telling her that. Same when she heads off to school. Don't give a sh!t how sappy that sounds

Z 31-05-2011 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by happyland (Post 4272340)
This is my moral code..

Spoiler:

Go placidly amid the noise and the haste,
and remember what peace there may be in silence.

As far as possible, without surrender,
be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even to the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons;
they are vexatious to the spirit.

If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain or bitter,
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your business affairs,
for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
many persons strive for high ideals,
and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love,
for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment,
it is as perennial as the grass.

Take kindly the counsel of the years,
gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.

Beyond a wholesome discipline,
be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe
no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be.
And whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life,
keep peace in your soul.


With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

I really love this Lee, where is it from? Good philosophy!!

joeysteele 31-05-2011 10:58 AM

Reach out to other people,those I know and don't know and help them when and if you can.
We journey life together, if someone's really struggling help carry their load with them.

seanraff07 31-05-2011 11:03 AM

Be yourself, unless your a wanker.

Livia 31-05-2011 11:14 AM

I try never to say anything behind anyone's back that I'm not willing to say to their face.

Lee. 31-05-2011 12:03 PM

:bawling:
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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 4274717)
I really love this Lee, where is it from? Good philosophy!!

It's called Desiderata and it was written by Max Herman in the 20s. Hippies in the 70s made it popular and used to hand it out in posters form. I have it framed in ny hall and read it almost every day. :)

InOne 31-05-2011 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ElProximo (Post 4274646)
Wow the depth of discourse and philosophy here. The average UK morality seems to have been reduced to:
I dunno. Be nice I guess?

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

And I suppose yours is the Bible? :joker:

BB_Eye 31-05-2011 10:57 PM

I find it hard to deduce universal moral truths, but I act as if they did exist. The same goes for free will. I suppose you might call it faith.

BB_Eye 31-05-2011 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 4275606)
And I suppose yours is the Bible? :joker:

I have to defend El Proximo on this point actually.

It's too often taken for granted what's morally good and morally bad. The British mentality on these things is that values are a thing of common sense, when in actual fact it is very much relative to culture and conditioning and prone to change over time. This isn't to we shouldn't treat others kindly, but that it's a mistake to think of it as a spontaneous human inclination. Using ourselves as the measure of values is not enough.

ElProximo 01-06-2011 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 4275606)
And I suppose yours is the Bible? :joker:

It is yours.
It's why you believe that helping the homeless is 'morally good'. It's why you think equality is 'a good thing' to aim for.
It's why you think poor people ought to have social services.

These are things you not only accept as 'moral codes' but you don't even question them. It's nearly 'inherent' via your culture and upbringing,
and,
so much that you haven't even questioned them. Of course they are good! right?
You are probably scoffing in disbelief that I'm even talking about these as being questionable!
You have these 'moral presumptions' because of the Bible. You enjoy the benefits they bring but want to disassociate them from the source. Joker face is on you after all.

InOne 01-06-2011 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 4276960)
I have to defend El Proximo on this point actually.

It's too often taken for granted what's morally good and morally bad. The British mentality on these things is that values are a thing of common sense, when in actual fact it is very much relative to culture and conditioning and prone to change over time. This isn't to we shouldn't treat others kindly, but that it's a mistake to think of it as a spontaneous human inclination. Using ourselves as the measure of values is not enough.

It's a very tricky one really. I can see what you mean but I still don't think people get a deep sense of morality from that. Comes from inside

InOne 01-06-2011 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ElProximo (Post 4277267)
It is yours.
It's why you believe that helping the homeless is 'morally good'. It's why you think equality is 'a good thing' to aim for.
It's why you think poor people ought to have social services.

These are things you not only accept as 'moral codes' but you don't even question them. It's nearly 'inherent' via your culture and upbringing,
and,
so much that you haven't even questioned them. Of course they are good! right?
You are probably scoffing in disbelief that I'm even talking about these as being questionable!
You have these 'moral presumptions' because of the Bible. You enjoy the benefits they bring but want to disassociate them from the source. Joker face is on you after all.

Is it? Because everything you said there doesn't have anything to do with that...

Vicky. 01-06-2011 12:28 AM

Meh. I tried the treat others the way you want to be treated thing, and got **** on from a great height repeatedly. So now its pretty much do whatever the hell you like and screw what others think :/ Be nice and people walk all over you IMO, so why bother.

I agree with livias post though, I would never say something behind someones back that I wouldnt/havent said to their faces.

ElProximo 01-06-2011 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 4277301)
Is it?

Yes, it is.

Quote:

Because everything you said there doesn't have anything to do with that...
Yes it does.

Now you know.

Benjamin 01-06-2011 02:44 AM

Respect those that respect you and vice versa.

ElProximo 01-06-2011 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukturtle (Post 4277827)
Respect those that respect you and vice versa.

Why should you?
What would make it morally 'wrong' or 'right' and by what standard?

InOne 01-06-2011 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElProximo (Post 4277817)
Yes, it is.



Yes it does.

Now you know.

Well the Bible is a pretty awful place to get your morals from if you go by it wholeheartedly. No doubt you pick and choose the "nice" bits like many others.

Shasown 01-06-2011 01:16 PM

If you cant pot the pink, pot the brown, any holes a goal.

Niamh. 01-06-2011 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4278182)
If you cant pot the pink, pot the brown, any holes a goal.

:laugh2:

ElProximo 01-06-2011 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 4278119)
Well the Bible is a pretty awful place to get your morals from if you go by it wholeheartedly. No doubt you pick and choose the "nice" bits like many others.

Actually, idiotic half-witted 'atheist' websites are a pretty awful place to get your information from.

But let's save time and get to the heart of it:
By what standard do you judge some Jewish Laws as 'awful' and others as 'nice' anyways?
What standard of morality are you using to make those judgments?


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