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Scarlett. 22-06-2011 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DeejayAJ (Post 4320864)
Yeah that seems fair, serial killers get less :rolleyes:

He'd be getting charged with multiple offences, and theres a lot

Shaun 22-06-2011 10:46 AM

that's the legal system for you

Scarlett. 22-06-2011 10:47 AM

Also, serial killers wouldnt get less in America, they'd get the electric chair

arista 22-06-2011 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 4320909)
that's the legal system for you



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...57_308x185.jpg
19 year old Ryan
is a Guilty Punk.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...16_306x423.jpg
Recent Image.

Scarlett. 22-06-2011 11:18 AM

Apparently according to police sources, he was in the middle of hacking a UK website when the raid happened. Also he only faces 10 years in the UK, though it's likely he'll be extradited to the US to face a much longer sentence.

arista 22-06-2011 11:35 AM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...85_634x427.jpg

Livia 22-06-2011 03:01 PM

A couple of things realy disturb me about this case. Firstly, it looks like some people (I don't just mean people on here) are not grasping what a serious crime this is. Hackers put everyone's security at risk. The Internet is in its infancy, and if we don't crack down on hackers right now and make an example of those who are caught, who knows what will happen in the future. Secondly, how come the minute one of these people are caught, there's their Mummy leaping to their defence with the same old chestnuts "he's got special needs" and "he spends a long time in his room I didn't know what he does in there". If your kid's really got special needs, surely you'd take some interest in what he's up to online, wouldn't you? If it does turn out he has special needs (as was claimed with Gary McKinnon, the last idiot hacker the USA wanted to extradite) then their parents should be prosecuted in their place.

Scarlett. 22-06-2011 03:41 PM

I agree ^ people don't really realise exactly what these people are doing. For example, Lulzsec and Anon have started 'Operation AntiSec' - basically, they want to hack government websites and publish everything they find. Then there's the bit where they want to publish OUR information on a website, for all sorts of dodgy sorts to use 'for "Lulz'"

MTVN 22-06-2011 04:03 PM

I think people are aware what hacking is, and it can compromise peoples security but to suggest that 60 years would be an appropiate sentence is ridiculous. For what it's worth a lot worse could have been done judging by how easy these websites were to infilitrate. I read an article pointing out that we should in some ways be grateful to them for publicly exposing how inadequete the security is on a lot of sites.

The ease with which they have done it probably means it's been done before, or that it could have been done and noone would know about it, and that's more worrying if you ask me.

Josy 22-06-2011 04:13 PM

I think its absurd to suggest his parents be prosecuted in his place tbh, his crime, his consequences wether he has learning difficulties or not.

arista 22-06-2011 05:02 PM

From ITV London News

Ryan has been charged with 5 charges so far.

arista 22-06-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 4321325)
I think its absurd to suggest his parents be prosecuted in his place tbh, his crime, his consequences wether he has learning difficulties or not.


He is 19
and his parents never entered his Criminal Den



His loyal mum banged on his door
and would tell him dinner is there
left outside his door.



His is 100% Guilty
he knew he was doing wrong.

arista 22-06-2011 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4321228)
A couple of things realy disturb me about this case. Firstly, it looks like some people (I don't just mean people on here) are not grasping what a serious crime this is. Hackers put everyone's security at risk. The Internet is in its infancy, and if we don't crack down on hackers right now and make an example of those who are caught, who knows what will happen in the future. Secondly, how come the minute one of these people are caught, there's their Mummy leaping to their defence with the same old chestnuts "he's got special needs" and "he spends a long time in his room I didn't know what he does in there". If your kid's really got special needs, surely you'd take some interest in what he's up to online, wouldn't you? If it does turn out he has special needs (as was claimed with Gary McKinnon, the last idiot hacker the USA wanted to extradite) then their parents should be prosecuted in their place.


Gary is nothing like this
he has a mental problem and because he could not enter
the USA - UFO Gov site
he wrecked all others in his way.




This Punk Ryan is a Outright Criminal.

Vicky. 22-06-2011 05:16 PM

LOL at the sentence he could be facing.

You could kill people and get less time than that

Livia 22-06-2011 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 4321325)
I think its absurd to suggest his parents be prosecuted in his place tbh, his crime, his consequences wether he has learning difficulties or not.

What I think is absurd is that there's this kid, who's parents know he has special needs, he is in their house, they presumably pay for his broadband, and yet they have no idea what their son is up to on the Internet. If he is not mentally capable of being extradited and standing trial for his wrongdoings as they are suggesting, then his parents surely must take some responsibility.

arista 22-06-2011 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4321401)
What I think is absurd is that there's this kid, who's parents know he has special needs, he is in their house, they presumably pay for his broadband, and yet they have no idea what their son is up to on the Internet. If he is not mentally capable of being extradited and standing trial for his wrongdoings as they are suggesting, then his parents surely must take some responsibility.



No because they never entered his room.


He is 19 and his special needs are not that bad.

arista 22-06-2011 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4321398)
LOL at the sentence he could be facing.

You could kill people and get less time than that



Yes they must set a Example , here.

MTVN 22-06-2011 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4321401)
What I think is absurd is that there's this kid, who's parents know he has special needs, he is in their house, they presumably pay for his broadband, and yet they have no idea what their son is up to on the Internet. If he is not mentally capable of being extradited and standing trial for his wrongdoings as they are suggesting, then his parents surely must take some responsibility.

What do you expect them to do, stand behind them and watch him whenever he's on the internet. Like arista said he's 19, and doesn't have severe special needs, you can't blame his parents for constantly monitoring his online activity 24/7. I'd say very few parents know what they're children are up to on the internet anyway.

Scarlett. 22-06-2011 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4321305)
I think people are aware what hacking is, and it can compromise peoples security but to suggest that 60 years would be an appropiate sentence is ridiculous. For what it's worth a lot worse could have been done judging by how easy these websites were to infilitrate. I read an article pointing out that we should in some ways be grateful to them for publicly exposing how inadequete the security is on a lot of sites.

The ease with which they have done it probably means it's been done before, or that it could have been done and noone would know about it, and that's more worrying if you ask me.

60 years because of mutliple charges there's people in American prisons with 300 year sentences

Scarlett. 22-06-2011 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4321398)
LOL at the sentence he could be facing.

You could kill people and get less time than that

It's the charge he'll get in America, for killing over there, you'd probably get the chair

MTVN 22-06-2011 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 4321741)
60 years because of mutliple charges there's people in American prisons with 300 year sentences

I know but it would be nice if they showed a bit of perspective

arista 23-06-2011 12:12 AM

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content...4/16017127.jpg

Top of the paper
Hacker Ryan
High on Lighter gas.

Stu 23-06-2011 02:18 AM

Lighter fluid? What an asshole. Use some real drugs.


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