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Grimnir 17-08-2011 03:57 PM

humans>>>animals>>>sub human animals

Lee. 17-08-2011 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4474670)
Six hunters were sent in by the emergency services to kill the mother bear and her three cubs.

(why?)

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1VIlJNFW5

what a horrific story!

Shaun 17-08-2011 04:22 PM

I'd have to say so.

Crimson Dynamo 17-08-2011 04:37 PM

As no life has any importance or meaning there is no difference only that which we place on it.

Its a religious hangover that we think humans are more important.

CharlieO 17-08-2011 04:41 PM

Unfortunately I'd have to say yes because I eat animals.

Lee. 17-08-2011 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4474769)
As no life has any importance or meaning there is no difference only that which we place on it.

Its a religious hangover that we think humans are more important.

I think I think of humans as more important because I am one..

Stu 17-08-2011 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4474769)
As no life has any importance or meaning there is no difference only that which we place on it.

Its a religious hangover that we think humans are more important.

I know you want to provoke discussion but sometimes you just sound plain stupid. .

Crimson Dynamo 17-08-2011 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4474789)
I know you want to provoke discussion but sometimes you just sound plain stupid. .

Only to those who cant be bothered to contribute but happily play "look at me"

Stu 17-08-2011 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4474808)
Only to those who cant be bothered to contribute but happily play "look at me"

I already contributed my answer. Not everyone who thinks you are pushing it a bit is trying to get attention. I suppose playing Christian apologetics for a year or two and then switching to rampant nihlism has nothing to do with playing 'look at me'?

We create the meaning in our lives. We empathise with humans more than any other animal and rightly so. I could sit here all day providing biological/evolutionary/neurological reasons why that is the case. I could discuss it in poetic or scientific terms.

Valuing human life more than the lives of other species is not the massive leap of faith or arrogant stance of assumption you're making it out to be.

Livia 17-08-2011 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4474769)
As no life has any importance or meaning there is no difference only that which we place on it.

Its a religious hangover that we think humans are more important.

I think it's more to do with reason, intellect, emotion, the opposable thumb and being at the top of the food chain than religion.

Crimson Dynamo 17-08-2011 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4474836)
I already contributed my answer. Not everyone who thinks you are pushing it a bit is trying to get attention. I suppose playing Christian apologetics for a year or two and then switching to rampant nihlism has nothing to do with playing 'look at me'?

We create the meaning in our lives. We empathise with humans more than any other animal and rightly so. I could sit here all day providing biological/evolutionary/neurological reasons why that is the case. I could discuss it in poetic or scientific terms.

Valuing human life more than the lives of other species is not the massive leap of faith or arrogant stance of assumption you're making it out to be.

Thankyou Stuart

You may now clear up your things, put away your utensils and head off to prayers with the other boys.

Oh and Stuart, dont think i dont see the earring.:nono:

Captain.Remy 17-08-2011 04:59 PM

Of course yes.

Whoever says the contrary has social issues.

Animals are good. In my stomach. This is how life goes baby. We eat them. No pity.

Doogle 17-08-2011 05:01 PM

My friends and family and myself, and people I sort of know, yes.

But I'd rather a stranger or someone I dislike die than an animal. Unless it was like an ant.

Crimson Dynamo 17-08-2011 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4474855)
I think it's more to do with reason, intellect, emotion, the opposable thumb and being at the top of the food chain than religion.

But we all know that we are not more important but that we make it so in our own minds.

Livia 17-08-2011 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4474868)
But we all know that we are not more important but that we make it so in our own minds.

I suppose it's to do with what you consider 'important' to mean. All animals have their place and their function in the scheme of things. Maybe not the wasp, which is the skinhead of the insect world.

MeMyselfAndI 17-08-2011 05:09 PM

Nope, I'd save my dog over anyone i dont like.

Crimson Dynamo 17-08-2011 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI (Post 4474890)
Nope, I'd save my dog over anyone i dont like.

Big Society

MeMyselfAndI 17-08-2011 05:13 PM

What??

joeysteele 17-08-2011 05:15 PM

A really excellent question Leather Trumpet,wow, it's a tricky one,I think I would say saving a Human over an Animal should be more important but I can't, I couldn't say that I would save a HUman over any Animal.

It would really depend on the circumstances,our family dog for instance, I doubt I would save anyone other than my family over him.

Brilliant question LT, you have me for one, stumped on this one for a definitive answer.

Ammi 17-08-2011 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 4474905)
A really excellent question Leather Trumpet,wow, it's a tricky one,I think I would say saving a Human over an Animal should be more important but I can't, I couldn't say that I would save a HUman over any Animal.

It would really depend on the circumstances,our family dog for instance, I doubt I would save anyone other than my family over him.

Brilliant question LT, you have me for one, stumped on this one for a definitive answer.

It would depend on the circumstances, as I've said before if it was a child murderer or a family pet, I would choose animal over human........but if it was a split second decision.......and I didn't now they were a child murderer......my instinct tells me I would choose human, I think most people would....letting humans die over animals is just well bad karma

joeysteele 17-08-2011 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 4475005)
It would depend on the circumstances, as I've said before if it was a child murderer or a family pet, I would choose animal over human........but if it was a split second decision.......and I didn't now they were a child murderer......my instinct tells me I would choose human, I think most people would....letting humans die over animals is just well bad karma

I would agree with what you say in the main.

May I add, when I read your post I thought, that's like something rhino would say,then I looked at the name and saw you were rhino.:joker:

Confused me a bit.mind you that's easy to do.:joker:

Ammi 17-08-2011 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 4475105)
I would agree with what you say in the main.

May I add, when I read your post I thought, that's like something rhino would say,then I looked at the name and saw you were rhino.:joker:

Confused me a bit.mind you that's easy to do.:joker:

:xyxwave::joker:

Harry! 17-08-2011 06:41 PM

I would save my pets over a random human being. But if it was someone I know verses a random aninal it would depend if I liked that person or not.

bananarama 21-08-2011 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat! (Post 4474612)
Waaw!! :shocked::shocked: This really shows, the state of humanity for real. At least this demographic, reading this thread. Shocking! :shocked:
I have had pets, cats mainly throughout my life, but no way in hell, will I save any of them, over my worst enemy, of a human being. I still know the difference between the brain, self awareness, of an animal, and that of a human being!

I am actually quite shocked reading some of the answers, because I honestly didnt think, people were like that, in general. But then again, maybe its just this country, or just the Tibb demographic. Live and learn!

You wouldn't save your pet over your worst enemy. Obviously you don't love your pets. The point you are mising is that love or hate decides what we do or don't do. A genuine pet lover loves their anaimal as if part of the family. A stranger is not loved therefore its perfectly understandable to save a beloved pet as opposed to a complete stranger. But then it depends on who the stranger is.......A young women with children hard to let die. A male sorry I would save my pet......


To let a beloved pet die to save a worst enemy sounds completely abnormal......

Lee. 21-08-2011 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bananarama (Post 4490211)
You wouldn't save your pet over your worst enemy. Obviously you don't love your pets. The point you are mising is that love or hate decides what we do or don't do. A genuine pet lover loves their anaimal as if part of the family. A stranger is not loved therefore its perfectly understandable to save a beloved pet as opposed to a complete stranger. But then it depends on who the stranger is.......A young women with children hard to let die. A male sorry I would save my pet......


To let a beloved pet die to save a worst enemy sounds completely abnormal......

I think having the death of another human being on your conscience would be harder to deal with than an animal... and I mean any human even your worst enemy.


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