I wouldn't say it is flopping at all, the viewing figures are still decent, they'll probably go down but last night got C5's best ratings on a Saturday night in years I believe?

It's awful. Half the people making excuses for the editing are only doing so because they are such fanboys of the show and are paranoid the public will go cold on it.

Ok so was just watching a bit of it now, like the last half hour. At first it looked like TOWIE with all the names and dodgy music, but then after the ad break it stopped which I was happy about.

It seems like kind of weirdly empty, all their convo seems pretty forced and they all looked pretty awkward together. I liked the last bit though where they were just all sitting around smoking and plotting, Tara :amazed:

Didn't see much of Jedward yet, barely 5 mins so can't really comment on them lol

Derek's emerged. <3

Yea Joe the last half of yesterdays episode was by far the best part we have seen so far but the series is just terrible as a whole. None of the 'fundamental rules of big brother' have been stuck to by the producers so its kind of not the same show at all.

Yeah, how come Paddy was allowed to talk to his wife? Did they all get to talk to someone? It's only been a few days and they're making phonecalls? :bored:

It was his wedding anniversary.

Last nights show was good but the episode before it was absolutely terrible

I bet C5 are still very happy with the figures. They'd probably like more but if they get 2 million every night they'll be happy.

Because none of the Big Brother rules still remain. And rumours are that they are all allowed regular phone calls and thats why there is no live feed. Also there has been proof they are allowed iPods in the house. So basically the only parts we see are when BB have told them to put away all their gadgets and do some acting.

If you remember CBB5 Donny did not return to the Big Brother house as he (I quote) 'He broke the FUNDAMENTAL rule of Big Brother and made contact with the outside world'. This 'fundamental' rule has been broken by Big Brother themselves already in CBB8.

The worst thing they could've done really :bored: I hope they are a lot stricter with the normal BB. I can get over it bending the rules with the celeb one just about but if they do it with the normal one I will not be a happy bear

There hasn't been proof they're allowed ipods and it's JUST rumors that they're allowed phone calls, it's only been 3 days, they're not gonna be missing people THAT much.

And it's a new show, so the new producers can change the rules to whatever they like

Yea same. If the normal Big Brother is the same with the cheesy edits, new Marcus and no original concepts I won't continue to watch I don't think. Breaking the rule which is what BB is about on the 3rd day seems absolutely ridiculous to me.

Amy said to Paddy 'where is your iPod', Paddy said 'In my bag'. If thats not proof I do not know what is.

...a picture of them with it

They should be listening to what the people want :hmph:

There is not so far, but the housemates saying it is still proof. Its not as if any of the original rules/concepts stand anyway so why wouldn't they let them have iPods.

well some people like the new format, so technically they are
Oh yeah, he said it so it's obviously proof :rolleyes:


btw Do you wanna come see my dragon later? It's in my shed

Who are these people :suspect:

Everyone who wanted it to be a vote to save instead of evict :hmph:

well half the people still care about the show and want it to do well :nono:

Its really amazing to me how some people on here are blindly defending this drivel! and get upset when someone has a bit of criticism!

wtf, you've been here for 2 hours and have 3 posts :joker:

Well obviously anyone can say anything but the way they said it was in a completely serious manor so the likelihood is that it is true.

yeah and? i may have just joined, but been looking at the forum for a while.

I really like this series, it's the best in a while in my opinion! there are a lot of mixed opinions at the moment though, mainly because of the changes and the editing that has been made to the show.