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Mystic Mock 14-09-2011 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲ (Post 4562063)
Are you serious? He hunts foxes not people...



I bloody well hope so, we'd have an interesting "Dodge the buckshot task" if he did

Lol you cruel bastard.:joker:

Although he can shoot Aden and Rebeckah.:joker:

yoshi88 14-09-2011 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc. (Post 4562079)
yes. well done.

So you think foxes are gross compared to human beings, ok could you explain that a bit please.

Livia 14-09-2011 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by yoshi88 (Post 4562085)
So you think foxes are gross compared to human beings, ok could you explain that a bit please.

You should see a henhouse after a fox has got in, killed them all for fun and eaten none of them.

yoshi88 14-09-2011 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4562097)
You should see a henhouse after a fox has got in, killed them all for fun and eaten none of them.

Your wrong foxes do not kill for fun. Most animals need to find food every day to survive. Some nights are better than others in terms of food for a fox so, given the opportunity, foxes will always kill surplus food and cache (bury) it, to eat on another night when hunting is less good. This is a very successful strategy for surviving in the wild.

However, when a fox breaks into a hen house it is surrounded by easily caught prey. Its normal behaviour, and a good survival strategy is to kill all prey available and try to cache it. Given the option, the fox will come back for the remaining corpses and cache them.

The sun newspaper is not always the best place to learn facts. :nono:

▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲ 14-09-2011 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by yoshi88 (Post 4562112)
Your wrong foxes do not kill for fun. Most animals need to find food every day to survive. Some nights are better than others in terms of food for a fox so, given the opportunity, foxes will always kill surplus food and cache (bury) it, to eat on another night when hunting is less good. This is a very successful strategy for surviving in the wild.

However, when a fox breaks into a hen house it is surrounded by easily caught prey. Its normal behaviour, and a good survival strategy is to kill all prey available and try to cache it. Given the option, the fox will come back for the remaining corpses and cache them.

The sun newspaper is not always the best place to learn facts. :nono:

Foxes are a pest no matter what way you try and paint it, and no its not actually a good survival strategy, considering I'm going to find the fecker and shoot it in the noggin after it does that.

yoshi88 14-09-2011 11:11 PM

A pest to who humans? The arrogance of my species astounds me sometimes. The only real pest on this planet is your own.

Besides that foxes provide an indirect economic benefit to farmers of at least £7 million annually by eating rabbits. Because fox benefits offset their costs, foxes are probably economically neutral to farmers. So even that is a myth, its all just nonsense so perverts can carry on being perverts and torturing them for fun.

headaball 14-09-2011 11:12 PM

Easy target as Lord Aaron says.

Visage 14-09-2011 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc. (Post 4562045)
Foxes are gross anyway.

Megan is alright though.

Mystic Mock 14-09-2011 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by yoshi88 (Post 4562178)
. The only real pest on this planet is your own.

So are you an alien then.:joker:

yoshi88 14-09-2011 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 4562193)
So are you an alien then.:joker:

Feels like it most days! :spin:

▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲ 14-09-2011 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by yoshi88 (Post 4562178)
A pest to who humans? The arrogance of my species astounds me sometimes. The only real pest on this planet is your own.

Besides that foxes provide an indirect economic benefit to farmers of at least £7 million annually by eating rabbits. Because fox benefits offset their costs, foxes are probably economically neutral to farmers. So even that is a myth, its all just nonsense so perverts can carry on being perverts and torturing them for fun.

You genuinely don't have a clue what you are talking about, for every rabbit a fox eats there are 500 more eating our crops. I live on a farm, all my family are farmers, they have cost us countless of thousands over the past few years, along with rabbits, which I happily manage also. I take no pleasure in it, it is necessary. If you had it your way we'd all be vegan, but the rabbits would have eaten all our crops, because presumably you wouldn't want us managing them either, so we'd just starve to death.
Anyway PM me if you want me to educate you any more because this is totally off topic now

Mystic Mock 14-09-2011 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by yoshi88 (Post 4562197)
Feels like it most days! :spin:

:joker: In all seriousness I do agree with you that killing Foxes when they aint even near your land is quite vile,but the Governments will never give in to what the majority of the normal everyday people want as they are the people living in the countryside killing foxes for fun.

I still dont think Pamela Anderson should have been allowed to tell the rest of the house about Harry Foxhunting in the outside world,although I still think Harry would have been up for eviction anyway.

Kazanne 14-09-2011 11:23 PM

Must admit I have great difficulty getting past the fox hunting that Harry does,and what was Jay rattling about more or less saying that it's ok to kill an animal as long as you eat it,LOL idiot(no one needs to kill to eat today)so his objection to Harrys foxhunting didn't make sense.Harry seems to be a nice bloke,but it would go against my beliefs to support him.

yoshi88 14-09-2011 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲ (Post 4562202)
You genuinely don't have a clue what you are talking about. I live on a farm, all my family are farmers, they have cost us countless of thousands over the past few years.
Anyway PM me if you want me to educate you any more because this is totally off topic now

Farmer is like like a euphemism for someone who profits from exploiting animals?

I don't think it would be a unbiased education somehow so I will pass thanks.

yoshi88 14-09-2011 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲ (Post 4562202)
You genuinely don't have a clue what you are talking about, for every rabbit a fox eats there are 500 more eating our crops. I live on a farm, all my family are farmers, they have cost us countless of thousands over the past few years, along with rabbits, which I happily manage also. I take no pleasure in it, it is necessary. If you had it your way we'd all be vegan, but the rabbits would have eaten all our crops, because presumably you wouldn't want us managing them either, so we'd just starve to death.
Anyway PM me if you want me to educate you any more because this is totally off topic now

:hugesmile: maybe you should stop killing the foxes then.

▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲ 14-09-2011 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by yoshi88 (Post 4562216)
Farmer is like like a euphemism for someone who profits from exploiting animals?

I don't think it would be a unbiased education somehow so I will pass thanks.

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Originally Posted by yoshi88 (Post 4562220)
:hugesmile: maybe you should stop killing the foxes then.

http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/att...o-facepalm.jpg

joeysteele 14-09-2011 11:48 PM

I abhor fox hunting, I think it was Oscar Wilde who said fox hunting was ''the unspeakable in the pursuit of the uneatable''.

However, I can accept that some people against it, may not take kindly to people who are for it. I do not think though,that fact that Harry does this in the outside world,that it should be a valid reason for nominating him in the BB house.
That should centre on what he does or does not do in the house not outside of it.

The poster earlier is also likely correct that foxes do not kill for fun really.
I watched a documentary on foxes and it was explained, in particular, when a fox gets into a chicken run, it sees an abundance of food,firstly the noise the chickens make create the situation where the fox kills all it can to stop the noise,secondly, it would as the poster said above, take each chicken it could that it killed to bury/store it for food at a later date.

What happens generally though is people are alerted by the noise and chaos in the chicken run and when the owner/farmer gets there he has lots of dead chickens and the fox then cannot get back safely to carry them off to bury/store.

My Parents home is in the country,the sickest thing I have seen are pompous, horn blowing fully grown men on horseback, with loads of dogs chasing one fox to let the hounds tear it apart alive. I saw a kill once as a child and the memory of it has never left me and I hate the activity,I won't even think of callng it a sport.

If in the house though, I would talk to Harry on it, trying to get him to at least think again on it but as to nominations, I would never feel justified to use that as a reason to nominate him for eviction and I am surprised BB has actually as it is nominating from a position of prejudice.

Colbert-Bump 15-09-2011 01:12 AM

Dave had the same problem last year with the gay subject.

jtalh2003 15-09-2011 05:48 AM

farmers just need to get tougher chickens and the foxs wont bother them
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-22081916/
:joker::joker::joker::joker:

Livia 15-09-2011 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by yoshi88 (Post 4562112)
Your wrong foxes do not kill for fun. Most animals need to find food every day to survive. Some nights are better than others in terms of food for a fox so, given the opportunity, foxes will always kill surplus food and cache (bury) it, to eat on another night when hunting is less good. This is a very successful strategy for surviving in the wild.

However, when a fox breaks into a hen house it is surrounded by easily caught prey. Its normal behaviour, and a good survival strategy is to kill all prey available and try to cache it. Given the option, the fox will come back for the remaining corpses and cache them.

The sun newspaper is not always the best place to learn facts. :nono:

Listen, darlin'...Try not to insult me by suggesting I get my facts from The Sun when you clearly don't know the difference between "you're" and "your". You make yourself look silly.

Foxes DO kill for fun. I know plenty of farmers who would attest to that.

If you want to get all teary over the fluffy animals, take yourself off to the local abattoir and see where you chicken nuggets and burgers come from.

lostalex 15-09-2011 09:16 AM

I don't really understand fox hunting. Do they even really hunt foxes? It sounds more like he just helps dogs hunt foxes. The dogs do the actual hunting/killing right?

Livia 15-09-2011 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4562650)
I don't really understand fox hunting. Do they even really hunt foxes? It sounds more like he just helps dogs hunt foxes. The dogs do the actual hunting/killing right?

Fox hunting with dogs - you know, when they all dress up in red jackets and hunt foxes on horseback with a pack of dogs? - is now illegal. Thankfully. You can control fox numbers on your land... but it isn't the same as fox hunting for fun.

joeysteele 15-09-2011 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4562650)
I don't really understand fox hunting. Do they even really hunt foxes? It sounds more like he just helps dogs hunt foxes. The dogs do the actual hunting/killing right?

Yes,loads of them who once they catch the Fox after exhausting it by chasing it for ages, rip it to pieces alive.

It's like something from the dark ages, to see so called civilised people enjoying this act is really sickening to me.

Harry has been brought up to think it's normal though,so that has to be understood from his perspective too. It is part of his life and upbringing but that should never be a valid reason to nominate him for eviction on BB, since that was the reason given by the housemates then those nominations should be disallowed from them.

I hate Fox hunting,I do hope though Harry gets saved by the public this week.

joeysteele 15-09-2011 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4562658)
Fox hunting with dogs - you know, when they all dress up in red jackets and hunt foxes on horseback with a pack of dogs? - is now illegal. Thankfully. You can control fox numbers on your land... but it isn't the same as fox hunting for fun.

It is illegal but many do still just ignore the law and go and do it, challenging that law.hey enjoy challenging the law nearly as much as they enjoy fox hunting itself.

What an example they set to people.These so called noble people.

As much as I hate what they do, it's not a reason to take that view and apply it in a prejuduced way as some did yesterday in nominating Harry. Maybe they don't like him personally really,I feel though BB should have said, because he fox hunts that is not a valid reason for nomination. I was surprised BB let those nominations stand.

Beso 15-09-2011 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by yoshi88 (Post 4562085)
So you think foxes are gross compared to human beings, ok could you explain that a bit please.

they stink of piss, rummage through bins..make a hell of a noise at night when I'm on early shift..look ****ing mangy..

They aint basil ****ing brush you know.


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