Well you never see a Dragon and a Lizard in the same place and time do you. Now Then....:spin:

Seriously though i was just making a point about once you except as possible the impossible, a whole new world of strangeness opens up.

It annoyed me when they said on the news that these development might prove that Einstein was wrong. His ideas were ground-breaking and laid the building blocks that have led to the discoveries they're making now.

I think we already know Einstein is wrong. The two big theories in physics are Quantum Mechanics and Einstein's Theory of Relativity. And we know that these two theories are incompatable. There is supposed to be some other theory (The theory of everything) that unites them which is still undiscovered.

Einstein's theories, like all theories, are open to speculation and conjecture. A theory is not a definitive answer. If Einstein was alive today I'm sure he'd be more excited than anyone that new theories are overtaking his original ideas.

Problem is people believe theories as if they were fact and as such take themselves a long way up the garden path of the ridiculous.......A good theory is pounced on by scientific sheep and kept alive at all costs because they dare not shatter their own biased beliefs......

Another theory that should have been abandoned and shot down decades ago is the theory of the big bang creation of the universe. Its just a matter of time before they eventually see what a ridiculous load of cobblers that theory is also. In the mean time they will still keep inventing stuff like dark energy. Dark matter......None of which has a cats chance in hell of actually being present......Exept in their deluded imaginations desperate to make the maths work to keep the theory alive.......

Modern scientists need to start thinking out of the box,

You are absolutely correct.

Einstein even said his special theories of relativity were simply models to describe what was known at the time, his prediction of how long they would stand until disproven was way off the mark. They have stood a lot longer than he anticipated.

In fact the discovery by the swiss scientists doesnt disprove E=mc2 at all. Thats just hype for the media. If you throw in reference frames, where the observer(s) are located etc,(the fact that is no such thing as a static reference location and if thats the case there is no such thing as a start and finish point for measurement in either time or space) and a bit of quantum physics, which he hinted at when his works were published, then he is still bang on

I agree

apparently nothing existed 14 billion years ago, then for some unknown reason all the matter and energy in the entire universe was created in a huge majestic explosion and thus began the space time continuum
and for the first few seconds all this matter travelled at warp speeds until deciding on setting a speed limit of "light speed"
don't forget that this universe was created out of nothing and surrounding our universe is.....nothing
AND it turns out the rate of expansion of universe is actually accelerating too
how this possible? empty space itself is expanding :shocked:
so literally nothing itself is expanding into nothingness surrounding it

sounds good theory to me

this theory is brought to you courtesy of mr georges lemaitre.....a catholic priest

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ZRZwHwA7l3...+facepalm1.jpg

It's amazing to me how little discussion there is about the actual article and the information contained.

Anyway, the CERN OPERA team wasn't saying they'd discovered FTL particles. They were actually reporting that they were having anomalous results. Neutrinos were hitting the target about 60ns faster than photons, which should actually be impossible. They reran the test 10,000~ times with a margin of error around 10ns. Mostly their report was to get other scientists to help them figure out what's going wrong. The OPERA team definitely does not trust these results at all.

The only "good" theory on neutrinos becoming FTL particles would rely on the Standard Model Extension, in which the oscillation that neutrinos undergo(this is how they start as electron neutrinos in the sun and end up as muon neutrinos by the time they reach Earth) would potentially allow them to violate Lorentz Symmetry, permitting FTL speeds. However, this is a theory that is purely speculative. Dozens of theories along these lines get thrown out because they're just absurd, not because physicists refuse to think out of the box.

This has now been attributed to faulty wiring

See here

..... and here :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17139635

mmmmm ..... :idc:

Neutrinos clocked at light-speed in new Icarus test
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17364682

That's alright, then ..... :idc:

All they have to do to prove it is repeat the experiment?
In your face science :)