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MTVN 03-10-2011 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI (Post 4618756)
She went to jail for 4 years??

Yep - arrested in 2007, got found guilty in 2009 and have just been acquitted tonight

'Conor 03-10-2011 08:33 PM

Wait so she didn't do it :suspect:

Cromwell1900 03-10-2011 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 4618740)
Its the right decision on the basis of the evidence but I'm not convinced shes innocent. No smoke without fire and all that.

If she is guilty then I guess the 4 years in prison and having her name dragged through the mud on a worldwide scale (not usually done in murder cases) is punishment enough. If she didn't do it then she can take consolation in the alleged big money deals coming her way. No doubt she'll be on ITV's This Morning at some point, they love stories like hers.

Well it's not just that the conviction has been found to be unsafe, she has actually been cleared according to Sky.

Cromwell1900 03-10-2011 08:38 PM

Italian Burden of Proof

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Burden of Proof: In Italy the "burden of proof" is extremely high, and this allows many criminals to go free. While this is obviously a serious matter in organised crime, it is also relevant in matters of lesser gravity. For example, the fact that a man is in possession of stolen property, whether automobiles, motor scooters or jewellery, may not be held against him to the extent that it would be in Britain, Australia, Canada or the United States, even though possession of stolen property is a criminal offence in Italy as elsewhere. The question of burden of proof also comes into play in rape trials (see below).
http://www.bestofsicily.com/mag/art315.htm

Tom 03-10-2011 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cromwell1900 (Post 4618775)
Well it's not just that the conviction has been found to be unsafe, she has actually been cleared according to Sky.

I know but it still doesn't mean shes innocent. They just haven't got enough evidence. A lot doesn't add up.

Smithy 03-10-2011 08:40 PM

i can see this becoming another thread for omah to spam with pointless news stories for the next 6 months

Jordan. 03-10-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 4618796)
i can see this becoming another thread for omah to spam with pointless news stories for the next 6 months

When she gets an ITV2 show maybe

bbfan1991 03-10-2011 08:41 PM

So on the basis of the evidence both have been cleared after some more evidence was brought into question, they will have to rebuild their lives after spending a few years in jail.

It's Meredith Kercher's family I feel sorry for because they will never be able to forget her murder and the fact that 2 people who were innocent according to the court now was originally found guilty leaves a lot of questions about the law.

Cromwell1900 03-10-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 4618793)
I know but it still doesn't mean shes innocent. They just haven't got enough evidence. A lot doesn't add up.

Yep! as always with these things i guess. If your sat on a Jury and you are faced with such a confusing array of evidence i think i'd be thankful that i could say there is a reasonable doubt in my mind and equit

Smithy 03-10-2011 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 4618799)
When she gets an ITV2 show maybe

roflmao

Marsh. 03-10-2011 08:50 PM

I can't believe that both were released on account of the evidence not being strong enough. From what I've read its quite clear that at least one of them did do it. And if they didn't would easily have information on who it would be.

It annoys me when this happens, there was sufficient evidence when they were originally sentenced. Sickened me when I heard the reporter say "they'll be given a hero's welcome back in the States". Disgusting.

Cromwell1900 03-10-2011 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 4618825)
I can't believe that both were released on account of the evidence not being strong enough. From what I've read its quite clear that at least one of them did do it. And if they didn't would easily have information on who it would be.

It annoys me when this happens, there was sufficient evidence when they were originally sentenced. Sickened me when I heard the reporter say "they'll be given a hero's welcome back in the States". Disgusting.

Well part of the idea that they are innocent is the Police investigation and bad Police practice.

A possible Murder weapon was a kitchen knife, which was taken by the Police out of the Kitchen draw, and tested for Amanda's DNA. A small piece was found on the blade. That is shockingly bad Police work, it's a Kitchen knife in her own kitchen why would there be no DNA on it

Marsh. 03-10-2011 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cromwell1900 (Post 4618832)
Well part of the idea that they are innocent is the Police investigation and bad Police practice.

A possible Murder weapon was a kitchen knife, which was taken by the Police out of the Kitchen draw, and tested for Amanda's DNA. A small piece was found on the blade. That is shockingly bad Police work, it's a Kitchen knife in her own kitchen why would there be no DNA on it

I didn't hear about that. I thought traces of Meredith's blood were found on the kitchen knife???

Omah 03-10-2011 09:36 PM

There's no smoke without fire ..... :suspect:

Cromwell1900 03-10-2011 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 4618953)
I didn't hear about that. I thought traces of Meredith's blood were found on the kitchen knife???

DNA can come from Blood so it could of been blood found on the knife, as apposed to say a lose flake of skin say, im not sure on that, a Sky news analysed was saying that a small sample of DNA which was so small there was not enough for a crucial second test to be done on it. If it was Blood, and you think the first test was adequate that still leaves the slim but not beyond a doubt chance that she cut herself on that Knife and left some blood on the blade weeks before, doesn't it?

Iceman 03-10-2011 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bbfan1991 (Post 4618801)
So on the basis of the evidence both have been cleared after some more evidence was brought into question, they will have to rebuild their lives after spending a few years in jail.

It's Meredith Kercher's family I feel sorry for because they will never be able to forget her murder and the fact that 2 people who were innocent according to the court now was originally found guilty leaves a lot of questions about the law.

Im sure the 500 grand for being falsely imprisoned will give her a good kick start. :wink: or whatever she makes from interviews, I bet Piers Morgan will have her on within the week.

GypsyGoth 03-10-2011 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Eoin (Post 4619485)
Im sure the 500 grand for being falsely imprisoned will give her a good kick start. :wink: or whatever she makes from interviews, I bet Piers Morgan will have her on within the week.

Yep I think she's become a millionaire pretty fast, there will be loads of tv shows wanting her on as a guest in the states, she's get a book deal and another movie will probably be made now that there is a happy ending.

Iceman 03-10-2011 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 4619535)
Yep I think she's become a millionaire pretty fast, there will be loads of tv shows wanting her on as a guest in the states, she's get a book deal and another movie will probably be made now that there is a happy ending.

Happy ending for her, not the poor girl who died. :sad:

Also Im pretty sure they'll try have her extradited and tried at the supreme court.

Omah 03-10-2011 11:45 PM

She'll never be able to walk down a street alone ever again ..... she's a natural target for nutters .....

Iceman 04-10-2011 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 4619681)
She'll never be able to walk down a street alone ever again ..... she's a natural target for nutters .....

She'll make a few million and fall into obscurity onto America ina few years

Omah 04-10-2011 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Eoin (Post 4619741)
She'll make a few million and fall into obscurity onto America ina few years

If she lives .....

lostalex 04-10-2011 03:59 AM

It's about time. I think Rudy Guede did this alone, he only pointed to Knox and Rafelle to save his own skin and also because italian prosecuters put pressure on him. He's also got a history of knife crime before. He assualted another women after he broke in and threated her with a knife before. Amanda and Rafelle had no prior connection to crime at all.

Amanda has suffered everyone's worst nightmare, her friends and family have suffered as well. Her parents lost their house in order to pay for her lawyers. If Amanda is able to make some money, and buy her parents a new house, i see nothing wrong with that, and also it's important she tells her story so that hopefully she can help other people in similar positions who face discrimination in foreign countries and don't get a fair trial.

Sticks 04-10-2011 04:52 AM

I am hoping that the Italian authorities stop her fleeing back to the US.

The prosecutors have already said they will contest this "aquittal"

There is a lot more I would want to say, but as with another case, money can buy"justice" and stifle free speech.

psychtracker 04-10-2011 05:08 AM

That's a good result (imho), i looked into this case in quite a bit of detail about a year ago, and quite frankly the guilty verdict was bizarre and unfounded. Flimsy evidence at best, a complete crime scene botch up by the italian police, and trial by media because she exhibited some unusual behaviour after her flatmates death. Regardless if she did do it (and seems unlikely), it's more speculation rather than any hard evidence, i'm glad they saw common sense and finally released her.

lostalex 04-10-2011 08:24 AM

Watching Meredith Kertcher's family holding a press conference now. They really have behaved appaulingly. They clearly want Amanda punished even though she is innocent. They should focus more on grieving their loss, instead of pointing fingers at innocent people. Meredith would be ashamed of her family's behavior throughout this whole thing.


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