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Raven 10-10-2011 03:07 PM

Gem has only got to have seen the "I'm not in here to make friends, it is a game and I'm going to play it" to have concerns that this supposed relationship is just part of aarons 'game' and that her sister is being used. Plus him blowing hot and cold, the maisy thing, the confusion and upset it has caused Faye.... More than enough for a sister to want to warn Faye to cool it and be careful.

Kazanne 10-10-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4638289)
Why did Jem make out to Faye that Aaron had been saying bad stuff about her? I've never heard him say anything but good stuff about her, in the Diary Room and to other HMs, yet it seemed to me Jem was implying that he had and she knows as she's been watching the show :conf:

Yes Niamh,it was a bit spiteful of her to do that,Aaron has always spoke well of Faye,maybe big sis is jealous.

Cromwell1900 10-10-2011 03:10 PM

Another strange thing Gem said was (is Aaron making you smoke). Where is she getting these ideas from, unless she just wants to cool Faye down on Aaron

Kazanne 10-10-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven (Post 4638861)
Gem has only got to have seen the "I'm not in here to make friends, it is a game and I'm going to play it" to have concerns that this supposed relationship is just part of aarons 'game' and that her sister is being used. Plus him blowing hot and cold, the maisy thing, the confusion and upset it has caused Faye.... More than enough for a sister to want to warn Faye to cool it and be careful.

Surely you don't believe that was the only part she's seen:joker::joker:she's seen it all alright ,the Maisy kiss has been way over blown,and it has been explained numerous times:sleep::sleep:Faye has also blown hot and cold,Aaron likes Faye,it's plain to see.

Pyramid* 10-10-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 4638522)
Jemma didn't say that Aaron had been badmouthing Faye, she actually said to her "how do you know he hasn't" which is far more insiduous and was obviously said to make Faye paranoid. I don't think she's trying to protect Faye at all, it smacks to me of jealousy.

I agree, I think she is jealous of Faye - even right down to her making mention of them being competitive and Jem saying, "She's got to have more friends that me"......

Since when did one sister having more friends than the other way ever become a consideration between them. They are two different people - one is bound to have more friends than the other one - it only needs a differential of one to be effective.

She's jealous. And I think that's why she's making a play for Jay - remember, Faye fancied Jay, but he wasn't interested in Faye - he was interested in Louise. ;)

Beso 10-10-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4638330)
You obviously haven't read my OP properly. I didn't say she couldn't have an opinion on their relationship, what I said was she basically implied to Faye that Aaron had been saying bad things about her.............which is untrue, unless she's been given some access to live feed that none of us were shown.

She obviously had an opinion on her relationship hence the questions!! If she had seen anything I'm sure she would have said outright.

Niamh. 10-10-2011 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 4638883)
She obviously had an opinion on her relationship hence the questions!! If she had seen anything I'm sure she would have said outright.

She couldn't say it outright as It would against the rules for her to mention what she saw of the programme.

Raven 10-10-2011 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 4638880)
Surely you don't believe that was the only part she's seen:joker::joker:she's seen it all alright ,the Maisy kiss has been way over blown,and it has been explained numerous times:sleep::sleep:Faye has also blown hot and cold,Aaron likes Faye,it's plain to see.

According to you... to me what is plain to see is a manipulative greeseball playing games with a young lasses emotions, with Toms emotions, trying it on with maisy (Which he wouldn't have done had he actualy felt anything for Faye), etc. But just as you won't accept him ever doing anything wrong, I don't trust the creep and will therefore suspect his intentions.

If Gem's PoV is closer to mine than to yours then her actions make a great deal of sense.

Beso 10-10-2011 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4638889)
She couldn't say it outright as It would against the rules for her to mention what she saw of the programme.

She could still have said it..the punishments aren't hardly worth a fart.

Kazanne 10-10-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4638338)
Didn't she say there had been a family tragedy - not a death. A tragedy doesn't automatically mean death. I'm absolutely sure she didn't say someone had passed away or died - I'm 99%sure she said tragedy - which could mean anything - that the family regard as tragic.

I think an uncle had a heart attack or stroke but is ok now.

Niamh. 10-10-2011 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 4638919)
She could still have said it..the punishments aren't hardly worth a fart.

She would have been lying though if she actually came out and said he was saying stuff behind her back, because he wasn't, which lets her imply he was under the cover that she's not allowed say anything directly.

Beso 10-10-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4638926)
She would have been lying though if she actually came out and said he was saying stuff behind her back, because he wasn't, which lets her imply he was under the cover that she's not allowed say anything directly.

Sorry but that's complete bollox, she just never thought what she was saying could be taken another way..simple mistake you're looking to deep in on this one I'm afraid.

Kazanne 10-10-2011 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven (Post 4638907)
According to you... to me what is plain to see is a manipulative greeseball playing games with a young lasses emotions, with Toms emotions, trying it on with maisy (Which he wouldn't have done had he actualy felt anything for Faye), etc. But just as you won't accept him ever doing anything wrong, I don't trust the creep and will therefore suspect his intentions.

If Gem's PoV is closer to mine than to yours then her actions make a great deal of sense.

I wont see wrong in someone who has done nothing wrong,when he and maisy kissed it was at a time Faye had said she didn'y fancy him,she fancied jay,so maybe its faye who is the false one,Toms as most of us know by now was a bet and aaron put him right about that as Tom obviously thought or wanted more,YOU don't have to trust him,but from the shower in there he and harry,maybe Alex are the only ones I would ever trust,that is my opinion hope that's ok with you.

joeysteele 10-10-2011 03:31 PM

Well she is bound to be more jealous of Faye, Faye is a stunner really while Jemma looks like she's had a very hard paper round,(I think the expression goes like that).

Of what we've seen,she hasn't as yet bad mouthed Aaron in the diary room though,she just keep saying she thinks he is shy but she'll work on him.

Niamh. 10-10-2011 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 4638935)
Sorry but that's complete bollox, she just never thought what she was saying could be taken another way..simple mistake you're looking to deep in on this one I'm afraid.

Well, her reply to Faye saying that he says nice things about her in the Diary Room was "How do you Know" she knows he does but she was making out to Faye that he doesn't.

Beso 10-10-2011 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4638947)
Well, her reply to Faye saying that he says nice things about her in the Diary Room was "How do you Know" she knows he does but she was making out to Faye that he doesn't.

Has he always said nice things about her?

She was just being protective..no point in me arguing that fact to you cause it's clear as day.

Niamh. 10-10-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 4638954)
Has he always said nice things about her?

She was just being protective..no point in me arguing that fact to you cause it's clear as day.

Yes, I've never heard him say anything bad about her, only good stuff.

Sounded more like trying make her paranoid than being protective. How can lying to someone protect them. If she doesn't think he's genuine fair enough but making up things to put doubt in Fayes head isn't a very genuine way to help her sister.

Beso 10-10-2011 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4638963)
Yes, I've never heard him say anything bad about her, only good stuff.

Sounded more like trying make her paranoid than being protective. How can lying to someone protect them. If she doesn't think he's genuine fair enough but making up things to put doubt in Fayes head isn't a very genuine way to help her sister.

She never made anything at all, how can you say that? she was asking faye general questions about how sure she was of aaron.

joeysteele 10-10-2011 03:38 PM

He has expressed doubts concerning their closeness,especially just after the Maisy incident but he has never to my knowledge run her down at all,in the house or the diary room.

Now, he seems to really like her and I'd say more than just really like her.

Cromwell1900 10-10-2011 03:39 PM

Gem's just being Hyper critical of the Lad like a good big sis would. I wouldn't remember but there was a period when Aaron was not talking to Faye after her mardy strop at him. Did he say unpleasant things about her then maybe.

Pyramid* 10-10-2011 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4638947)
Well, her reply to Faye saying that he says nice things about her in the Diary Room was "How do you Know" she knows he does but she was making out to Faye that he doesn't.


The power of a well worded statement left hanging in the air - and with a flat refusal to expand or explain - often the sign of a liar and /or a sh*t stirrer. In this case, going by what we have been shown by BB over the course, Jem is both.

If I was in Faye's shoes: I'd be telling big Sis to either says what she's heard - otherwise she's paying no attention to her.

Pyramid* 10-10-2011 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cromwell1900 (Post 4638970)
Gem's just being Hyper critical of the Lad like a good big sis would. I wouldn't remember but there was a period when Aaron was not talking to Faye after her mardy strop at him. Did he say unpleasant things about her then maybe.

Don't blame him either. Faye was the one who had the mardy strop. It was her strop, let her keep it.

Cromwell1900 10-10-2011 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4638978)
Don't blame him either. Faye was the one who had the mardy strop. It was her strop, let her keep it.

What is your point?

Niamh. 10-10-2011 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 4638967)
She never made anything at all, how can you say that? she was asking faye general questions about how sure she was of aaron.

I've already explained why I think she was trying to put untrue ideas in her head. We're going round in circles now.

Raven 10-10-2011 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Carson (Post 4638981)
Aaron is only using her to try and create a fauxmance and to win the money,thats all that interests him imo.

Bullseye! Thats much the impression I have of aarons actions so far too


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