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It should have showed that then. Instead it's put her in a bad light really.

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Originally Posted by LeXcellence (Post 4708296)

It should have showed that then.

no sh*t! ..that's what we've been moaning about for the last couple of hours!

I gathered that! I wasn't aware they'd shown anything on BBBM. As I tend not to watch it. So I didn't know.

that's ok..you're up to speed now, it was very confusing, indeed!

It was either a choice of either watching Emma Willis about to drop the baby and talk with guests and bash people or watch Wrestling. :hugesmile:

They should have shown it in the main show really because hardly anyone watches BBBM. So if their trying to put her in a bad light then they have. I don't mind Louise really. Just annoys me.

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Originally Posted by LeXcellence (Post 4708330)

Yeah, i rarely watch it as well...i saw the first half on Youtube. They were all kitted out in Halloween dress...which made the show even more farcical than normal!

I'm not sure if it put Louise in a totally bad light, the panel seemed to be applauding her.

The confusing part we've been discussing is why the HL show had her saying she didn't have any intention of nominating Tom, and seemed to be sacrificing herself for the "group", yet the clip was totally at odds, because she tried to nominate him, but BB rejected it. Very strange!

It's not strange. She only picked Tom cause Jay gestured for her to vote for Tom. After BB rejected her vote on the grounds she was influenced (which she was), she picked who she wanted (Faye).

On what the HL showed. They've done this in past weeks show only certain things and then for BBBM to correct it. It does sound very strange. It all really depends if a lot of people watched BBBM or have the internet to read what went on so it doesn't show her in a bad light. I don't care much for Lou. Neither do I care for Faye. Be interesting to see what this week is like on HL for her. If she starts being with Jay a lot and doing things they'll make it look like she's trying to suck up to the viewers so they save her so she can be with Jay. Same with Faye really if she does the same with Aaroan.

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Originally Posted by jyunga (Post 4708359)

It's not strange. She only picked Tom cause Jay gestured for her to vote for Tom. After BB rejected her vote on the grounds she was influenced (which she was), she picked who she wanted (Faye).

What, so you don't think it was slightly strange that we had something like 15 minutes of Nomination footage on the HL show, and they omitted an important 10 sec piece, which they went on to show on BBOTS as part of a 20 second summary of the nights events? :conf:

I think what they wanted to do by omitting this footage on the HL show, was to portray Louise as slightly dopey, but loyal. And conceal the fact that they didn't want a 5 way eviction just before the final.

He knew that he was doing. He's not an idiot.

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Originally Posted by iRyan (Post 4708390)

He knew that he was doing. He's not an idiot.

Oh you have to be an idiot now to make a mistake

Sorry, I didnt know that

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4708394)

Oh you have to be an idiot now to make a mistake

Sorry, I didnt know that

Why would he lie about deliberately screwing up the vote? There is no point.

At first we all saw him lie that he made a mistake, then he came clean. Why would he fake coming clean?

Pride. IMO.

Seems the kind who would rather come off as selfish and arrogant than admit he was wrong ;)

So reading this , Why did Louise did not vote for Alex instead of Tom, I think she would have made 5 HM go up for eviction and save the face but instead she blamed Aaron only, so TBH re-watching it Jay did vote as usual for Fay and Aaron as usual,everybody voted as usual, and the Aaron not wanting to vote for Alex as usual is odd, and Louise voting as usual for Fay and Aaron is an act of heroism, beats me.

One minute it's all about how incredibly clever Aaron is, and suddenly when it suits people that like him, he can't even count to 2? Please...

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Originally Posted by MachoPoodle (Post 4708424)

One minute it's all about how incredibly clever Aaron is, and suddenly when it suits people that like him, he can't even count to 2? Please...

No, I think the point is that most went wrong starting from Faye, as the 2 she nominated weren't the 2 that were originally sat beside her. Im sure its pretty hard to keep up with how many were nominated so quickly, when the plan had gone slightly off track

Aaron decided to then not nominate Alex, but if Louise had been allowed to nominate Tom, like she apparently tried to, 5 housemates would have been up

I think the mistake he actually made was thinking that he could exclude Alex from the votes and believing BB wouldn't manipulate the vote to suit (ie, not allowing Louise to nom Thomas)

ffs, Aaron should be able to vote for anyone he wants to...louise messed it up most by not saying tom, but as usual Aaron gets the blame....Aaron or alex to win...

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4708137)

Was it Tom who messed it up, I think he was meant to vote for Alex but went for Louise?

Some one said on another forum that it was Tom who messed up.

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4708095)

Here we go...I do not think that Aarons 'sabotage' was deliberate. At all.

Aaron didnt even make the first mistake. They all agreed to nom the two people to the side of them, started this, then BB made them switch. While switching, they decided to keep the SAME noms as they would have been doing if they hadnt switched. Most did this. But someone went wrong somewhere. As by the time it was Aarons turn to vote, Faye already had 2 noms, and lousie already had 2 noms...and Faye/Louise were meant to be Aarons votes(going on the first seating order, which is what they agreed). So someone had voted for Faye AND Louise when they werent supposed to.

I think Aaron figured out that Faye already had 2 (he would obviously be paying more attention to that than louise) but messed up on his counting. And still put Louise up, thinking she only had 1. And threw his other vote to Tom as he realized Tom was missing a vote. You could clearly see he was very confused during his nominations...he knew it had gone wrong somewhere

Then tried to justify his actions by saying he wanted to save Alex(and the crap about the HMS families etc.) instead of just admitting that he made a mistake. And pretty much dug himself into a massive hole, and then kept up the facade. He does tend to be quite stubborn and always wants to make out hes right or did things for a reason, rather than just admitting that hes human and makes mistakes sometimes :S

I will probably be blasted by some of the Aaron fans for the second part, as it kinda goes against the whole ' he did it to be nice to Alex' or 'to be true to himself' reasoning, but I honestly think this is what happened.

I actually thought he had got confused,he looked very muddled after the switch around and it seemed to me like a genuine mistake,but how DARE we post that,LOL,I do think Aaron (as most men) is stubborn and would not like it percieved that he had made a mistake,but whichever it was,it was not only him who messed up,Louise has already admitted she was going to switch her votes but 'pretented' she got confused and Tom also messed up so whoever Aaron picked would not have made too much difference as Faye and Louise already got more,I also think Aaron got annoyed at being pushed into voting who others wanted him to,but the outcome is good I think,we get rid of some deadwood i reckon this week,I can save my pennies and Aaron is in the final,:hugesmile:

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4708128)

Oh he would (in my opinion) if it stopped him from having to admit he was wrong about something ;)

cant believe he would lie in a game show to win loads of money.! oh dear...that would never do.....
Id lie to hell and back if it got me to the final and a chance......If you enter a game..you should have a game plan....and stick to it.....if people go in there and expect to find true love and romance to last for ever thats their bad luck if it doesnt work out.....that is not the object of the game....if it works great. if it doesnt, tough! I cant understand how the creepy horrid Tom is still there..he has done naff all except moan and droan....thnk i will be glad when its over.!

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Originally Posted by G1dds (Post 4708425)

No, I think the point is that most went wrong starting from Faye, as the 2 she nominated weren't the 2 that were originally sat beside her.
Thomas)

No, it went wrong right from the first one to nom, which was TOM. He should have nommed Alex & Jay, but strangely had a brain meltdown and picked Jay & Louise...which threw the whole plan out of balance, then they all voted quite randomly.

this is a lose lose situation for Aaron fans, either way he looks bad imo

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Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 4708464)

I do think Aaron (as most men) is stubborn and would not like it percieved that he had made a mistake,but whichever it was,it was not only him who messed up,

Hmm...i'm a bit dubious of this theory that Aaron was brain muddled, then too stubborn or proud to admit his mistake. Seems way more plausible that he simply wanted to put Louise up, and then see what move she would make from there. He probably underestimated the level of fallout, and got a bit flustered from there on, thus changing his story.

When BB disallowed Louise to put Tom up - a 5 way split, it also put more heat on Aaron's decision to give Louise a 3rd vote.

either way.....one of them would have had to go.....so does it matter........one of the so called couples would have gone...and i was quite scared by the way that Tom kept redoing his skelleton makeup !!!

BB has interfered and manipulated what the viewers see right from the start, casual viewers i.e. those who matter/(VOTE ) are given a distorted view of what goes on so that Endemol gets the results that it intended (according to the producers' scripts.

Those whe frequent forums or go on line don't figure in Endemol's calculations (they don't matter!)