I know they don't clash that much but Strictly is somewhat it's downfall, they've had the best lineup they've ever and match that with X-factor having the worst talent they've ever had..

I feel the same, haven't seen any of this year it's just same old same old really tbh, I do think the judges has played a part as well, doesn't feel the same without Simon, Danni and even Cheryl despite her only joining a few years ago

Getting rid of Danni was the X Factor's downfall this year.

Lack of serious talent this year Ive seen some good one's taken out.

Oh dear looks like I'm the only one who thinks that TXF has quite a lot of talent this year - perhaps my hearing is going LOL. I think the ratings are down as the show is tired and the change in judges has put some off - I used to love tuning in just to watch how nasty Simon would be. Having said that I have quite taken to the new lot and still love the show - though I watch Strictly and record TXF so I can skip through the adverts.