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Vicky. 16-11-2011 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 4762028)
A cigarette doesn't distract you mentally though, phones do, concentration is on that and you're either looking at it to text or holding it up to your ear. And as someone mentioned they wanted to ban it for health reasons, not because lack of control on the wheel.

This is just daft IMO.

Those who smoke KNOW the health implications anyway. They should be allowed to smoke in their own car.

(Though I dont think people should be able to smoke in a car/enclosed space with children)

InOne 16-11-2011 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4762042)
This is just daft IMO.

Those who smoke KNOW the health implications anyway. They should be allowed to smoke in their own car.

(Though I dont think people should be able to smoke in a car/enclosed space with children)

At the end of the day that's down to the parents. It shouldn't be forced. If they smoke in the car with the kids in and windows shut then they're obviously thinking of themselves first. I dunno why the Goverment think it has the right to force it though, it's just stupid.

Tom 16-11-2011 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 4762028)
A cigarette doesn't distract you mentally though, phones do, concentration is on that and you're either looking at it to text or holding it up to your ear. And as someone mentioned they wanted to ban it for health reasons, not because lack of control on the wheel.

Yeah but my point is let people smoke in their cars if they want (maybe exceptions if they've got kids in the back), its their own space and their own health. Smokers know all the risks and don't need the government to tell them. But if you're driving I don't think you should be allowed. Its not a direct distraction like most other things you can get fined for but its still a hinderance if you need to do something in an emergency. I don't believe you can have 100% control if you're smoking even if smokers say otherwise (but they'll be biased anyway, and I don't mean that in a bad way).

Vicky. 16-11-2011 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 4762057)
At the end of the day that's down to the parents. It shouldn't be forced. If they smoke in the car with the kids in and windows shut then they're obviously thinking of themselves first. I dunno why the Goverment think it has the right to force it though, it's just stupid.

Especially under the guise of it being all for peoples health. When if they were actually bothered about peoples health, they would just stop selling cigarettes :idc:

InOne 16-11-2011 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 4762060)
Yeah but my point is let people smoke in their cars if they want (maybe exceptions if they've got kids in the back), its their own space and their own health. Smokers know all the risks and don't need the government to tell them. But if you're driving I don't think you should be allowed. Its not a direct distraction like most other things you can get fined for but its still a hinderance if you need to do something in an emergency. I don't believe you can have 100% control if you're smoking even if smokers say otherwise (but they'll be biased anyway, and I don't mean that in a bad way).

But most people don't give a second thought if someone is smoking in the car for their safety. Whereas if someone is texting or calling I'd bet they'd be a bit worried. I don't think I've heard of smoking related crashes whereas with phones it was becoming a problem, as to why they banned it.

fruit_cake 16-11-2011 07:14 PM

it worries me a bit if they ban this, what else are they going to ban?

Shasown 16-11-2011 07:16 PM

Should be fun watching the number of accidents rise if this is introduced.

Road rage and inattention caused by nicotine withdrawal.

Another great idea by the nanny state.

seanraff07 16-11-2011 07:25 PM

I can understand banning smoking in public places such as restuarants, bars etc because it can damage other peoples health and can annoy random people around. But when it comes to smoking in a car... it should be up to the smoker whether they do it or not.

Stu 16-11-2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 4762016)
Nice that you have to resort to insults to get your point across though :joker:.

Cliche statementszzzzzzzzzzzz.

You're just tumbling into this krazy spiral of just these mad arguments at this stage.

Tom 16-11-2011 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4762253)
Cliche statementszzzzzzzzzzzz.

You're just tumbling into this krazy spiral of just these mad arguments at this stage.

And you're still diverting attention away from the pointszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzz:sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep:

You just need to get over yourself and accept that other people have different opinions to you. You do it all the time. I'm not in no spiral, but you just look extremely stubborn and unwilling to even contemplate anyones different opinion because it goes against how 'liberal', 'real' and 'cool' you are.

Shasown 16-11-2011 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 4762060)
Yeah but my point is let people smoke in their cars if they want (maybe exceptions if they've got kids in the back), its their own space and their own health. Smokers know all the risks and don't need the government to tell them. But if you're driving I don't think you should be allowed. Its not a direct distraction like most other things you can get fined for but its still a hinderance if you need to do something in an emergency. I don't believe you can have 100% control if you're smoking even if smokers say otherwise (but they'll be biased anyway, and I don't mean that in a bad way).

There are bigger distractions than a smoker smoking while driving, ever driven with two kids in the back arguing? Maybe parents should have to sedate children before allowing them in cars?Or have you ever had a blowjob while driving on a motorway, Jesus! Now that is a distraction. Should ban that!!!!

The call for the ban on smoking in cars isnt on the grounds of road safety, its about children being made captive victims of passive smoking imposed upon them by their unintelligent parents.

Pyramid* 16-11-2011 09:19 PM

I bet I'm not the only smoker and driver on here that's dropped my cigarette lighter and took my eye off the road to look to see where it is.

I'll not the the only one who has experienced accidentally knocking the lit end of my fag, then 'jumping' about in the seat trying avoid it burning me or my clothes..... or dropping the fag itself.

Flinging the finished fag out the window for the bloody thing to come flying back in again - into the back of thecar.

But then.... that must only ever happen to women drivers of course eh! ;)

smoking whilst driving is a distraction - of that there is no doubt - but should it be banned? Nah. There are worse distractions: people changing CD's, plugging in phones, punching into sat navs etc.

I understand if there are kiddies stuck in the smoky atmosphere - but really, that's about the only ground for banning it.

Stu 16-11-2011 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 4762362)
it goes against how 'liberal', 'real' and 'cool' you are.

Nigger please.

joeysteele 16-11-2011 10:00 PM

I don't smoke but I am sick of these daft infringements of peoples freedoms as to smoking. This crackpot idea of banning smoking in private cars is totally ridiculous.

Bollo 16-11-2011 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4762515)
I bet I'm not the only smoker and driver on here that's dropped my cigarette lighter and took my eye off the road to look to see where it is.

I'll not the the only one who has experienced accidentally knocking the lit end of my fag, then 'jumping' about in the seat trying avoid it burning me or my clothes..... or dropping the fag itself.

Flinging the finished fag out the window for the bloody thing to come flying back in again - into the back of thecar.

But then.... that must only ever happen to women drivers of course eh! ;)

Actually, now you mention it, my exboyfriend used to do all of the above, we actually had to pull over a couple of times when the cig / cherry flew into the back of the car as there was so much crap in his car ( food wrappers/ magazines etc) that some of it started to catch fire!!

Pyramid* 16-11-2011 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bollo (Post 4762692)
Actually, now you mention it, my exboyfriend used to do all of the above, we actually had to pull over a couple of times when the cig / cherry flew into the back of the car as there was so much crap in his car ( food wrappers/ magazines etc) that some of it started to catch fire!!

ha...I've done better than that.

I've been all dressed up in work suits: been flicking ash out of window, put window up a wee bit because of the noise level - forgot the window wasn't as low as it had been, then flicked the fag - but since the window wasn't down enough: it flicks itself right back again!!

That's good fun when yer tanking down the motorway at 115mph. :shocked:

Kerry 16-11-2011 11:00 PM

Calls To Ban Smoking In Cars
 
I'm not a smoker but even I think this is going a little OTT now

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If you have children in the car you'd think anyone with half a brain would not smoke in there anyway

HBB1508 17-11-2011 11:30 AM

This just makes my blood boil - if I want to smoke in my car and the government try and stop me - well I will not be responsible for my actions!! As Vicky said if they want to ban smoking for health reasons then just stop selling cigarettes - but will they hell given the amount of tax the government earns off smokers.


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