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Shasown 22-12-2011 04:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 4828670)
Is there actually a way one can just avoid doing jury duty? I mean it seems a bit curious to have to do something like that.

-personally would want to-
You can be excused jury service if you fall into certain categories:

Some types of medical treatment
Be mentally unfit
Certain types of work commitment
Important family commitments, weddings holidays funerals etc
Recently done jury service
Join up
Certain areas of police work are excused as well

You will be disqualified if you have been convicted of certain types of offences, whilst on bail and for a period of time after doing a prison sentence or other other types of punishment.

Marc 22-12-2011 06:41 AM
What a silly boy, surely he should be hung? [/exaggeration]

joeysteele 22-12-2011 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Snowball (Post 4828323)
What IS IT with 19 year old students these days. Ah dunno.

Being the militant hard mare I am - I see not a thing wrong with this. Some of the young adults in this country need to learn that along with adult life, comes that thing known as responsibility.

Time they brought back national service as well. Give some of them something to bliddy well moan about.
:joker: I know, 19 year old students are getting a bad press right now, I will be glad when I turn 20 soon.:joker::joker:

On the more serious side though, how daft,jury service is massively important, he must have been made aware of that fact as Livia points out too.

As jf said it is a daft reason to skip jury service, it's near impossible to get out of it anyway without a really good reason. To skip a day during a trial is wrong, even more so for his actual reason,I am surprised he isn't getting some punishment for doing so, after all he misled the authorities as to his reason for not turning up for the day.

arista 22-12-2011 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4828248)
Being a juror is a serious business. Like you say, I'm surprised he hadn't cottoned on to that fact.

19 year olds are into scams
its the Teen way of life.

joeysteele 22-12-2011 01:13 PM
Oh crumbs, I must start to read the openeing posts properly, I missed where he had been jailed for 2 weeks.

Totally understandable, jury service is an important citizen duty and it affects others lives as well as the person on trial,not to mention the expense of the trial.
I agree with it,although it may seem harsh to some, 2 weeks is not a long time and it is a desertion of official and expected duty too, so really he got off lightly.

Pyramid* 22-12-2011 01:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 4828616)
He could have at least skipped it for a GOOD musical.
If he'd gone to see CATS, I'd have excused him without a second thought.


:D

Omah 22-12-2011 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 4828923)
Oh crumbs, I must start to read the openeing posts properly, I missed where he had been jailed for 2 weeks.

Totally understandable, jury service is an important citizen duty and it affects others lives as well as the person on trial,not to mention the expense of the trial.
I agree with it,although it may seem harsh to some, 2 weeks is not a long time and it is a desertion of official and expected duty too, so really he got off lightly.
Yeah, I would have preferred the pillory and a good birching ..... :evilgrin:

Pyramid* 22-12-2011 02:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Omah (Post 4828944)
Yeah, I would have preferred the pillory and a good birching ..... :evilgrin:
hang about here: Joey.... he's 19. He's a student, has been known to partake of alcoholic beverage: :shocked:

surely hard time is due? Or at the very least - a good week spent here....




:D

Shasown 22-12-2011 02:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 4828923)
Oh crumbs, I must start to read the openeing posts properly, I missed where he had been jailed for 2 weeks.

Totally understandable, jury service is an important citizen duty and it affects others lives as well as the person on trial,not to mention the expense of the trial.
I agree with it,although it may seem harsh to some, 2 weeks is not a long time and it is a desertion of official and expected duty too, so really he got off lightly.
He didnt get off lightly, he got treated fairly, he will serve a week in prison then get released on remission for the second part of his sentence.

Then because he has received prison sentence he will find that for the next few years it has a knock on effect in his life.

A week inside is fair punishment for his stupidity, he knew he was going to see the show, so why didnt he just either rebook the london trip or get himself excused from jury service prior to the start of the trial in which he sat on?

Lets face it a few years ago the excusal rate for jury service was something like 70% of those called for jury service. So its no biggy getting off it.


If there is any sort of credence to this story, I blame his mum, its her attitude that shocks me most about this story. I reckon its all her fault so dont think we should be slagging teens off in general for this,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ing-trial.html

Pyramid* 22-12-2011 02:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4828970)
He didnt get off lightly, he got treated fairly, he will serve a week in prison then get released on remission for the second part of his sentence.

Then because he has received prison sentence he will find that for the next few years it has a knock on effect in his life.

A week inside is fair punishment for his stupidity, he knew he was going to see the show, so why didnt he just either rebook the london trip or get himself excused from jury service prior to the start of the trial in which he sat on?

Lets face it a few years ago the excusal rate for jury service was something like 70% of those called for jury service. So its no biggy getting off it.


If there is any sort of credence to this story, I blame his mum, its her attitude that shocks me most about this story. I reckon its all her fault so dont think we should be slagging teens off in general for this,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ing-trial.html
Not the mum's fault......the boyfriend let the cat out of the bag
Quote:

His boyfriend Christian Orr answered the phone and said Banks was not there because he had ‘gone to London to see a show’.


Shasown 22-12-2011 02:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowball (Post 4828981)
Not the mum's fault......the boyfriend let the cat out of the bag
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The boyfriend was just daft.

Think about it, chances are the mum brought the boy up, nurtured him, etc etc, the trip was for her.

I bet when she found out he was on jury duty she said "you will have to get it cancelled, we have the theatre trip."

He thought 'civic duty and all that, but will disappoint mummy, cant be having that, I know can do both will just pull a sickie'

Mum let him get away with that, after all he is as she puts it a "naive 19 year old"

Pyramid* 22-12-2011 02:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4828994)
The boyfriend was just daft.

Think about it, chances are the mum brought the boy up, nurtured him, etc etc, the trip was for her.

I bet when she found out he was on jury duty she said "you will have to get it cancelled, we have the theatre trip."

He thought 'civic duty and all that, but will disappoint mummy, cant be having that, I know can do both will just pull a sickie'

Mum let him get away with that, after all he is as she puts it a "naive 19 year old"
He probably took a train.

He probably took a wee shandy or two.

He's 19.

He's a student.

What hope is there for the modern world. We are all doomed. Doomed.

Shasown 22-12-2011 02:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowball (Post 4829002)
He probably took a train.

He probably took a wee shandy or two.

He's 19.

He's a student.

What hope is there for the modern world. We are all doomed. Doomed.
I blame the parents, sloppy parenting standards, lower morals. Setting bad examples and buying them Xboxes and Playstations.

But who let the parents get away with such parenting slip up and bad parental decisions, yes thats right the grandparents, so there you are

Its the grandparents fault. Jail all the oaps, its their fault this damned country is in the mess its in.

This country just isnt the same since the old king died

Pyramid* 22-12-2011 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4829004)
I blame the parents, sloppy parenting standards, lower morals. Setting bad examples and buying them Xboxes and Playstations.

But who let the parents get away with such parenting slip up and bad parental decisions, yes thats right the grandparents, so there you are

Its the grandparents fault. Jail all the oaps, its their fault this damned country is in the mess its in.

This country just isnt the same since the old king died
Not my granny's fault: she KNEW what she was doing - raised a good 'un here. :devil:

Shasown 22-12-2011 03:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowball (Post 4829006)
Not my granny's fault: she KNEW what she was doing - raised a good 'un here. :devil:
Never said it was your granny's fault, bet she didnt buy you an Xbox did she?

The "good 'un" point is open to debate though.

Pyramid* 22-12-2011 03:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4829007)
Never said it was your granny's fault, bet she didnt buy you an Xbox did she?

The "good 'un" point is open to debate though.

You are spot on. no XBox. I was truly a neglected child. :bawling:

You're also spot on about ''good 'un'' being open to debate - the correct phrase is of course, "Absolutely Fabulous!". :devil: Get me eh!! :D

Omah 23-12-2011 11:02 AM
Juror Matthew Banks says false illness 'was stupid'
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-16315486

Quote:
A juror who was detained after he pretended to be sick so that he could go to a West End musical has said it was a "very stupid thing to do".

Matthew Banks, 19, from Staffordshire, was sentenced to 14 days in a young offenders institution after a judge found him to be in contempt of court.

He went to see Chicago in London despite telling court staff he was ill.

After being freed on Friday five days into the sentence, the student said: "I thought I would just get a fine."

The trial at Manchester Crown Court was halted for a day as other jurors were sent home because of Banks' absence.

Speaking to BBC Radio 5 live's Victoria Derbyshire, Banks said: "It was a very stupid thing to do - I genuinely did not believe I would put off the trial.

"I had already served two weeks and I was on my last day of jury service."

Sentencing him on Monday, Judge Martin Rudland said lying to court officials for such a frivolous reason was a serious offence.

A Ministry of Justice spokesperson said offenders serving a 14-day sentence were released after seven days and this could be brought forward if the release date fell on a weekend or bank holiday.
Who's a lucky boy, then ..... home for Xmas ..... ;)

arista 23-12-2011 12:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sassy Claus (Post 4828492)
thats ****ing ridiculous :bored:

You Fecking What?


That Whole Court was Stopped.
so Mummy Boy could go and get Happy at a Live Show.


Mummy Boy did 4 Days
in all.


Get The Feck Over it.
Well done The Judge
warning others the Fecking Costs of Closing a Case Down.

arista 23-12-2011 12:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Omah (Post 4830236)



Who's a lucky boy, then ..... home for Xmas ..... ;)


He was just on ITV1News
They were terrible to me in my cell,
he crys. (just 4 days)

His Dad says we have to go outside with him.


Feck Me - He was not Shot.


Well Done The Wise Judge.

Pyramid* 23-12-2011 12:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arista (Post 4830314)
He was just on ITV1News
They were terrible to me in my cell,
he crys. (just 4 days)

His Dad says we have to go outside with him.


Feck Me - He was not Shot.


Well Done The Wise Judge.
Big enough to do the crime - not big enough to do the time.

Good - maybe he'll have learned his lesson after this.

Shasown 23-12-2011 12:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arista (Post 4830314)
He was just on ITV1News
They were terrible to me in my cell,
he crys. (just 4 days)

His Dad says we have to go outside with him.


Feck Me - He was not Shot.


Well Done The Wise Judge.
Arrr did those nasty criminals call him names, or did they make him have botty sex?

arista 23-12-2011 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowball (Post 4830316)
Big enough to do the crime - not big enough to do the time.

Good - maybe he'll have learned his lesson after this.

Yes his Whole Life is Gone.
His Attitude.


Only 4 Fecking Days
Lucky Git

arista 23-12-2011 01:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4830319)
Arrr did those nasty criminals call him names, or did they make him have botty sex?
Yes they banged on his Door
he is Haunted,
His Mother needs to Smack him
not cuddle him


Life In The City.

Pyramid* 23-12-2011 01:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4830319)
Arrr did those nasty criminals call him names, or did they make him have botty sex?
Should've sent the little git upto one of Scotland's toughiest......give him something to greet about.

Pyramid* 23-12-2011 01:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arista (Post 4830325)
Yes they banged on his Door
he is Haunted,
His Mother needs to Smack him
not cuddle him


Life In The City.
He's probably enjoy that. :shocked:


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