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chuff me dizzy 19-01-2012 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Visage (Post 4887360)
I think Michael has just given Denise more public votes.

If people on here think the british public will save him over Denise they have a shock coming

rogerb 19-01-2012 08:32 AM

[QUOTE=rusticgal;4887161]Michael has grown on me but I think he over-stepped the mark tonight.... I know he has said similar things in the diary room...but that was brutal.
Denise has been desperate to be his friend...too desperate after a drink or two...but no way did she deserve that tonight.... I really felt for her.

Unless Michael can retrieve the situation then I think he will have caused himself more harm than good!!![/QUOT
michael is the only hosemate that told it like he would have in the diary room.
the incinsere, 'oh im voting for yoy but i love you. is hypocasy, or just plain lying.
he is not my favourite hosemate, but at least he told the truth.

Beso 19-01-2012 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBB (Post 4887222)
some pepole are thick the way mike has crushed denise is really bad its mental mind fook hes playing with her, ive kept me mouth shut about it on this forum cause it makes me mad and ill say somthing bad and end up getting banned but come on anyone with half a brain should see how mikes treating denise and its not nice its vile.

If she just left him alone like he has asked he wouldn't need to be so blunt with her though..

Roy Mars III 19-01-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 4887661)
If people on here think the british public will save him over Denise they have a shock coming

If you think the public will take Denise's side, you are wrong

Patricia4 19-01-2012 09:15 AM

I will save him over Denise and Im sure there is alot more that wiil.
I agree with his comment say what you feel good on him.

Jules2 19-01-2012 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Patricia4 (Post 4888140)
I will save him over Denise and Im sure there is alot more that wiil.
I agree with his comment say what you feel good on him.

I will vote for him as well tbh but I think that a lot of people will see the difference culturally. Not a lot like the thought of an outsider winning and therefore they will go for the one whom they think is underdog, Denise. It wont matter that he has been the underdog with her antics, right from the beginning, it wont matter that she has made it unbearable for him in the house. It wont matter that he dared to stand up for himself.....they wont see the obvious, he has spoken and now many deem him as the bully. Oh dear how many times have we seen this happen over the years, how dare the men have a say.......Michael to win.,

Livia 19-01-2012 11:30 AM

All these people are in show business. It's a brutal world. If they can't handle a little criticism then really, they should have someone twirl them in bubble wrap and then never leave the house.

Cherie 19-01-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4888354)
All these people are in show business. It's a brutal world. If they can't handle a little criticism then really, they should have someone twirl them in bubble wrap and then never leave the house.

Isn't this what Denise does for a day job on loose women....make judgements...? Madsen has had her at close quarters for nearly 2 weeks now, I think he at least is qualified to make a judgement...:devil:

Jake. 19-01-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy Mars III (Post 4888093)
If you think the public will take Denise's side, you are wrong

Denise would be saved any day of the week

Livia 19-01-2012 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CherieB (Post 4888359)
Isn't this what Denise does for a day job on loose women....make judgements...? Madsen has had her at close quarters for nearly 2 weeks now, I think he at least is qualified to make a judgement...:devil:

That is a very good point CherieB. Come to think about it - and not that I am a regular viewer - but I've heard that bunch of harridans say some bloody awful things about men on that programme. Now everyone has to tiptoe around Denise in case she gets upset?

Livia 19-01-2012 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JH95 (Post 4888366)
Denise would be saved any day of the week

LOL... hilarious.

Angus 19-01-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JH95 (Post 4888366)
Denise would be saved any day of the week


:laugh3: Deluded, much? Not everyone watches the trashy "Loose Women" who spend most of their time ridiculing men, commenting on political and social issues about which they don't have a scooby do, and sitting in judgment on all and sundry.

pixee 19-01-2012 02:43 PM

I don't understand why it matters.

So does it make any difference if they get out and see that you've slagged them off rotten in the diary room? Is that better?

craigie2405 19-01-2012 03:42 PM

I think what he done to that poor woman was disgusting. That really really hurt Denise, I wanted to give her a big cuddle x

chuff me dizzy 19-01-2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by craigie2405 (Post 4888904)
I think what he done to that poor woman was disgusting. That really really hurt Denise, I wanted to give her a big cuddle x

She was the bigger person by not reacting like he wanted her to do, just as when he put her coat on to wind her up, she ate him up and spat him out

Bojangles 19-01-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 4888909)
She was the bigger person by not reacting like he wanted her to do, just as when he put her coat on to wind her up, she ate him up and spat him out


Like he didn't react the night she sat on his bed threatening to smash his face and raising her fist to his face.How he held back I'll never know.

MrWong 19-01-2012 03:52 PM

I prefered his nom of Denise last week

She’s a pretentious, incomprehensible, drunken b****h!”

spitfire 19-01-2012 03:52 PM

He only told the truth better than all this, "I talk to you the least" rubbish. Any one got a link so I can view it again, thanks

MrWong 19-01-2012 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 4888909)
She was the bigger person by not reacting like he wanted her to do, just as when he put her coat on to wind her up, she ate him up and spat him out

:conf:

When did that happen?

boomoo 19-01-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBB (Post 4887222)
some pepole are thick the way mike has crushed denise is really bad its mental mind fook hes playing with her, ive kept me mouth shut about it on this forum cause it makes me mad and ill say somthing bad and end up getting banned but come on anyone with half a brain should see how mikes treating denise and its not nice its vile.

If he is treating her badly why does she keep going back for more. She is pestering him. If he was doing that to her he would be told off.

Roy Mars III 19-01-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JH95 (Post 4888366)
Denise would be saved any day of the week

No she won't. She'll leave before Michael does for sure

Truth Teller 19-01-2012 05:33 PM

I am copying this post from a poster on DS. It is a very truthful personal view of the emotional issues Denise has and maybe some forum members will cut Michael some slack about his comment last night:

denise... depression... ENOUGH

"I've had a look through the message board and felt compelled to write this.

There's a lot of comments on here relating to denise and her mental health. I've suffered depression the last 9 years, been hospitalised for it etc etc....
As patronising as this may sound to you, it is true; unless you have been through depression, you cannot know what it's like. I'm not going to single out people with quotes, but some of you seem to think it's something to be embarresed about, or that they know the ins and outs of it because a friend of a friend had it, or, more related to BB, that a sufferer should be wrapped in cotton wool despite them feeling well enough to put themselves into such a stressfull experience as BB.

If i applied to go in BB, i would not be allowed in because of my mental health, ~FACT. there's a good reason for this, and the rule shouldn't change because of a celebrity status.

denise suffers depression ~FACT

alchohol is a depressant, you are strongly discouraged from drinking at all by doctors whilst suffering depression, it also stops anti-depressants working,. ~FACT

denise should not be in there in the first place. this is nothing against her. this is just common sense. and the usual BB rules for "normal" people.

and as for the michael madsen comment, saying denise is emotionally disturbed.. guess what? he's right.

denise is emotionally disturbed, same way as i'm emotionally disturbed. quoted from the oxford english dictionary: "disturbed: having emotional or mental problems."
denise HAS got emotional/mental problems. that is undisputable. this doesn't mean that i'm slagging her off. having emotional/mental problems isn't something to be ashamed of.
I have heard the word "disturbed" used by doctors, as i assume denise has, and if the story of michael being sectioned is true, he'll have heard it in that context too.

let's say though, that he did say it out of nastiness, it is still the most real, meaningful, wake up call of a sentence denise has heard in there, there was more genuine care in his abrupt comment (I remind you, being disturbed mentally ill etc... is NOT an insult as so many of you seem to think it is) than has been shown to her from the other housemates.

I'm disturbed. I didn't ask for it, i'd rather not have it, but i cope with it as best i can and i'm a proud".

smudgie 19-01-2012 05:46 PM

Very good personal account of someones view on their own depression.

I too have suffered bouts of depression on and off over the past 30 years, starting off with post natal depression. I can put my hand on my heart and assure you now that I do not consider myself disturbed in any way, mentally or emotional.
As Denise is/was not actually suffering from a bout of depression when she went in the house she has as much right as any other housemate to be in there. If she developed depression again whist in there I would hope she woud be given the help she would need and leave the show.
Everyones account of how they cope with depression would probaby not be the same.

Beso 19-01-2012 05:50 PM

Welch also admitted to using cocaine while filming Coronation Street and hitting her husband's head with a lamp shade after a "drink-fuelled row".
Welch confessed that her marriage was nearly ruined because of her mental illness, as well as an affair she had during the midst of her depression. With the help of her former Coronation Street co-star Kevin 'Curly Watts' Kennedy (a recovering alcoholic), she attended Alcoholics Anonymous and suggested that this helped her to end her dependency on alcohol. She claimed that it was the "hardest thing I have ever had to do in my life, but it is also the thing that I'm proudest of. And my mental health is now so much better than it was when I was drinking...I will always have depression—but I'm in control of it now because I've given up drinking". On 29 April 2010 her 320 Page autobiography Pulling Myself Together was published, in which she described how she overcame her problems with alcohol, drugs and depression. It became a best seller in the UK.




I don't think she's fully recovered, maybe bb should step in and take the poor cow out for her own good. The tit show should have been the final straw.

the truth 19-01-2012 05:51 PM

having depression does not excuse a person bullying and abusing a person for weeks,as she has done. period.she must take responsibility for her own actions. BB also should have warned her the night she threatened abused and hit michael


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