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Marc 09-03-2012 11:31 AM

amazing :joker:

arista 09-03-2012 12:08 PM

He just came out of Court
and the Judge gave him 12 month Community Order.
He said he expected prison of some sort.
He is banned from that bar and is still standing as a MP in Scotland
until 2015.


(ref: SkyNewsHD Live)


"Eric Joyce admitted four charges of assault
MP shouted 'You can't touch me, I'm an MP!' as he was arrested
Fined £3,000 and ordered to pay £1,400 to victims at Westminster Magistrates' Court
Also receives twelve-month community order, is banned from entering pubs for three months, and given a weekend curfew
Will not stand down before next election"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1ocp6aUfD


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...40_634x475.jpg
The Commons Bar

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...92_306x298.jpg
The glass window the Drunk Labour MP smashed

joeysteele 09-03-2012 01:34 PM

Almost unbelievable but then sadly for some there are different punishments to what others would get in the same situation.

Totally beyond belief that he can be permitted to remain an MP of that full salary for another 3 years,anyone else would likely have got sacked.

Kizzy 09-03-2012 02:37 PM

Are you suggesting MPs are above the law joey?...

arista 09-03-2012 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5006938)
Almost unbelievable but then sadly for some there are different punishments to what others would get in the same situation.

Totally beyond belief that he can be permitted to remain an MP of that full salary for another 3 years,anyone else would likely have got sacked.


Well the Judge is not there to Sack him.

Labour Must tells us what they think?



He is Stubborn
not nice when drunk,
says he was Elected to Serve until 2015.
But that was before he went Mental in that bar
and called Police the "c" word.

They should have a vote in his area
then we know if they still want the Punk.

waterhog 09-03-2012 04:00 PM

do as i say not as i do - shame on him - he needs to go <

joeysteele 09-03-2012 04:07 PM

I don't believe MPs are above the law but I think if I as a student did what he did and attacked 4 people causing mayhem and damage and injury then I doubt very much if I would have walked out of court on the day of sentencing.

Labour can only discipline him, expel him from the party and de-select him as they are doing, as their candidate.
They cannot though remove him as the duly elected MP, he could have changed parties mid Parliament and still remained an MP and now he got no custodial semtence it is unlikely he would be removed from being the MP until the next election unless he resigned as MP himself.

A fair few constituencies have MPs the bulk of its electorate dislike intensely but they cannot get rid of them and the Lib Dems did away with their idea of making it that constituents could force a recall of an MP so unless he goes voluntarily, Labour, the Govt even, nor anyone else can really force him to go until 2015 if he decides to see it through until then.

arista 09-03-2012 04:15 PM

Locals in Falkirk
interviewed on SkyNewsHD
said they think he should go now.

And so they should
as he may get Drunk
and head butt a local who does not like Labour.

joeysteele 09-03-2012 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5007129)
Locals in Falkirk
interviewed on SkyNewsHD
said they think he should go now.

And so they should
as he may get Drunk
and head butt a local who does not like Labour.

I agree with them,he should go now but still at this time the only time a constituency can get rid of an MP is when there is a general election unfortunately.

arista 09-03-2012 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5007137)
I agree with them,he should go now but still at this time the only time a constituency can get rid of an MP is when there is a general election unfortunately.



If they all went against him
he would have to stand down.


A new election could bring in a better SNP MP




At the Fight time he shouted
Its a Tory Nation,
well no its not you Punk MP
its LibDem as well
and in any case you just had your 13 years in power.

joeysteele 09-03-2012 07:17 PM

A by election may possibly bring in a new SNP member but it's not guaranteed, also a new SNP MP at this time is not wanted even by the Govt, which is why it is likely that this disgraced MP will be allowed to stumble on to the next electon.

Labour obviously,(now they are to discipline him by likely expelling him from the party altogether and withdrawing the whip from him,thereby virtually disowning him),would hope to regain the seat at the next election and this Govt,the Conservatives in particular, will not want to see a great new dawn of another new SNP MP possibly furthering the cause of yes to independence.

It's times like these that actually have the Conservatives and Labour pulling together at their very best to avoid any 3rd or lower parties spoiling their tit for tat, in/out,alternating forms of Govt.

Livia 09-03-2012 07:34 PM

Excellent, well thought-through post, Joey.

Kizzy 09-03-2012 09:57 PM

A slap on the wrist and told to 'be a good boy then... did anyone expect any different?
Wot no community service order?

joeysteele 09-03-2012 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5007571)
Excellent, well thought-through post, Joey.

I really do feel so great when I get your approval and praise for a post Livia,thank you very much for that kind comment.


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