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Pyramid* 02-05-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Doogle (Post 5115515)
I don't agree with this sentence.


She hasn't been sentenced yet though.

Benjamin 02-05-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 5115514)
She is a criminal Now.

Yeah, ok.

Redway 02-05-2012 07:47 PM

Don't get me wrong, everyone's allowed their views, but if it leads to abusing other people and that, lock her up. That's a public order offense.

Redway 04-05-2012 04:17 PM

On the plus side, I like her accent. Typical heavy, thick Cockney/Essex/Sussex style - not one to mess with, agressive and chavvy. Personal favourite of mine, those rougher accents from London and its nearabouts, not the posh, 'tea with the queen' type ones.

lostalex 04-05-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 5115536)
Don't get me wrong, everyone's allowed their views, but if it leads to abusing other people and that, lock her up. That's a public order offense.

she didn't abuse anyone. She offended some people. being offensive and being abusive are very different things.

As vile as she is, she should have the right to be as offensive as she likes. That's freedom of speech.

As far as i can tell she didn't threaten anyone, no one was scared for their life because of her. She didn't do anything to harm anyone other than being offensive.

She should be charged for being drunk and disorderly in public though, that would make more sense. She shouldn't be punished just for expressing her opinion in a non-violent way though.

Jack_ 04-05-2012 06:24 PM

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but if you're going to use that opinion to insult innocent bystanders then you are committing a crime, and rightly so.

No one should have to put up with that kind of outburst, especially when it's fuelled by such discriminatory nonsense.

Kizzy 04-05-2012 06:28 PM

Friggin ell...Locked up for a pissed up rant...Unbelievable!

King Gizzard 04-05-2012 06:30 PM

Don't even know where I stand on this..I suppose someone needed to be made an example of, but the inconsistency is terrible, just because there's video evidence she's probably got a bigger sentence then those people who're charged just through word of mouth

It kind of reminds me of the guy who got jailed for the Muamba abuse on twitter..if you're going to do this to one person, then you're going to have to be consistent, which is impossible. We'd need thousands more jails for people who're just racist/using hate speech alone.

Samuel. 04-05-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5118717)
she didn't abuse anyone. She offended some people. being offensive and being abusive are very different things.

As vile as she is, she should have the right to be as offensive as she likes. That's freedom of speech.

As far as i can tell she didn't threaten anyone, no one was scared for their life because of her. She didn't do anything to harm anyone other than being offensive.

She should be charged for being drunk and disorderly in public though, that would make more sense. She shouldn't be punished just for expressing her opinion in a non-violent way though.

Perfectly put.

Me. I Am Salman 04-05-2012 06:53 PM

Ohh I remember seeing this video ages back thinking it was just an amateur attempt to recreate My Tram Experience.

Kizzy 04-05-2012 06:54 PM

I actually thought it was the same woman, wonder if they are related?...haha

Me. I Am Salman 04-05-2012 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5118717)
she didn't abuse anyone. She offended some people. being offensive and being abusive are very different things.

As vile as she is, she should have the right to be as offensive as she likes. That's freedom of speech.

As far as i can tell she didn't threaten anyone, no one was scared for their life because of her. She didn't do anything to harm anyone other than being offensive.

She should be charged for being drunk and disorderly in public though, that would make more sense. She shouldn't be punished just for expressing her opinion in a non-violent way though.

Freedom of speech is only relative. This bitch had no right to say those things. You're sort of going off the point here.. it's as if you are trying to condone racism http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...ed_eyebrow.gif
Maybe jail is a bit harsh but how can you say she has the right to be as offensive as she likes?
Anyway I think she should be fined.
oh and p.s. verbal abuse counts as abuse.

Shaun 04-05-2012 07:20 PM

She's a moron, but she shouldn't be seen as a criminal.

Redway 04-05-2012 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 5118763)
Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but if you're going to use that opinion to insult innocent bystanders then you are committing a crime, and rightly so.

No one should have to put up with that kind of outburst, especially when it's fuelled by such discriminatory nonsense.

This.

Kizzy 04-05-2012 10:12 PM

Ahem....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmJpUbbn8bQ

Redway 05-05-2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 5118827)
Freedom of speech is only relative. This bitch had no right to say those things. You're sort of going off the point here.. it's as if you are trying to condone racism http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...ed_eyebrow.gif
Maybe jail is a bit harsh but how can you say she has the right to be as offensive as she likes?
Anyway I think she should be fined.
oh and p.s. verbal abuse counts as abuse.

I agree. She did make me laugh but she had no right to call people 'effing sh@theads' (it's incredibly irritating the fact this swear filter's on, to be honest) and the lot. It's stupid the fact that people are actually trying to defend this bitch.

Kizzy 05-05-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 5119751)
I agree. She did make me laugh but she had no right to call people 'effing sh@theads' (it's incredibly irritating the fact this swear filter's on, to be honest) and the lot. It's stupid the fact that people are actually trying to defend this bitch.

Have you clicked the link on my post?...Its not ok for one person to air their view (however ignorant) but if theres lots of you marching down the high street spouting bile its fine?
It makes no sense.

Redway 05-05-2012 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5119854)
Have you clicked the link on my post?...Its not ok for one person to air their view (however ignorant) but if theres lots of you marching down the high street spouting bile its fine?
It makes no sense.

Yeah, but that's still abusive, IMO. Even if you don't agree with the jail term, at least she knows not to do it again. If she was like, 'Go back to your owm countries' or whatever, that woild be all right, although stupid. It's the fact that she went on to swear at people, cussing to high heavens. Anyway, I'm out right now. I'll reply properly when I get home.

Redway 05-05-2012 12:56 PM

And when did I ever say that a group of people shouting bile is fine? Why are you putting into my mouth words I nevwr said?

Kizzy 05-05-2012 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 5119872)
Yeah, but that's still abusive, IMO. Even if you don't agree with the jail term, at least she knows not to do it again. If she was like, 'Go back to your owm countries' or whatever, that woild be all right, although stupid. It's the fact that she went on to swear at people, cussing to high heavens. Anyway, I'm out right now. I'll reply properly when I get home.

I don't agree with it full stop... A warning would have been enough, plus the media attention to make sure she did't do it again tbh.
Its a double standard to make an example of one or two people when you have others seemingly fully entitled to voice their opinion without question....:conf:

arista 05-05-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5119184)


No Kizzy she Ain't Drunk.

That is to well Edited. (propaganda)

Nothing like the Drunk Cow on this thread.

Redway 05-05-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5119898)
I don't agree with it full stop... A warning would have been enough, plus the media attention to make sure she did't do it again tbh.
Its a double standard to make an example of one or two people when you have others seemingly fully entitled to voice their opinion without question....:conf:

What are you talking about? Seriously, what are you on about?


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