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I'm not being 'wide' here as I'm not into the football thing in any real sense: so what about I were to ask if possibly incredibly stupid and probably ignorant question : why don't those Ultras who want no association with these scumballs - not breakaway and form another support group with another name not linked to Ultras? (I know, it's most likely the most silly question out - but as I say: an avid football fan I am not). |
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Would you be worried also that the ultras would view you as fair game, if you are not for us you are against us kind of?...
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This stuff gets dragged up before the start of tournaments. It's organised crime (South Africa), Mafia (Italy) and now racist violence.
These competitions are such a big deal for trade, and as a showcase, that the governments stamp down on these things immediately, and will have a lot of security in place. I'd be surprised if anything serious really kicked off. Racism isn't a huge problem with English football these days. No doubt some fans are racist, in the same way that some police are racist, or MP's. Some will be scientologists or Freemasons. People are generally stupid, and stupidity spreads itself across a cross section of the country. Let's not forget that at Euro 96, people were worried about us. Quick question for Sean - I enjoyed reading your post, but can you please explain how being a Hibs "ultra" gives you an insight into the world of these guys? |
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I did watch this and I found it fasinating how racism is allowed to happen like that. Some countries are still quite behind socially. But I would expect this is a minority case.
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You may be entirely correct about the bloodbath foreign fans are facing this summer, but I don't believe there is a chance on hell of that happening. |
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A lot of them don't have another life over there, it's just all football so everything they believe in they bring to the football to if that makes sense. There may not be masses of trouble - if Police want to prevent it then they will need to be armoured in much bigger numbers than usual, Ultras regularly get the better of Polis over there as the groups are so large. |
Just watched this. I didn't think it would be that bad but my God was it disgusting the way those people acted. :bored:
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Watching it now, I'm really surprised about the anti-semitism in Krakow in particular, I went there about 18 months ago and there were quite a lot of Jews around because it's so near to Auschwitz and was where they had a major ghetto they sent them before exterminating them, it's strange people can be so against Jews so close to where about a million of them died, along with Poles who the Nazi's also sent there
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