Originally Posted by Gaynor186 (Post 5224672)

I think you mean Aaron not Adam....stealing chocolate; wetting beds etc.

Originally Posted by Jezzy (Post 5224678)

kefln, you put forward very logical explanations. BUT. Her friends from university say that it just isn't true that women tend not to like her. Apparently she has plenty of female friends.

I was a tomboy and always got on better with men, although since hitting my 40s I have made a lot more female friends. Being friends with men is provocative to other women, whether you want that response or not. Don't tell me Lauren doesn't know this; I sure did. I just can't buy this "don't understand" thing.

So! I think she is playing. I just don't think she is doing it very successfully yet. I hope she gets better at it :)

Originally Posted by fruit_cake (Post 5224681)

Sara's said all along that she likes her, the problem comes from Lauren and Ash

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 5224783)

I think so too.

I guess in the real world Lauren wouldn't have to tolerate people like that, but she is forced to confront them in there.

So far I think she's handling it way better than I ever did. And I don't see her as playing the victim, she has been baffled by the dislike for her, and has even asked them what she could do different.

And just because you cry, that doesn't mean you're playing some type of victim card either. It must be really tough in there to control your emotions.

It's just a shame that she is up against Ben, as he has been one of her true friends in there.

Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 5224800)

adam is a right trouble maker lol gonna keep a closer eye on him

Originally Posted by rinkydinkpanther (Post 5226255)

most women Ive met can turn on the crocodile tears like a tap, how do you tell when its genuine?

Originally Posted by kefln (Post 5226280)

Run an experiment...

Line up all the women you know and complete the following tests:

1) Show them a new born baby
2) Kick a puppy
3) Tell them a tale from your childhood
4) Cut up one of their shopping loyalty cards
5) Tell them that they are "the one"
6) Ask them are the really going to wear that tonight...

If you are still alive at the end, look for the one still crying over the puppy - shes the only one that isn't crying crocodile tears! :D


Got to run now...lots of very angry women are looking at me with unblinking eyes! :shocked:

Originally Posted by kefln (Post 5224651)

Lauren has said it on multiple occasions, she just wants to know why people turned on her, despite the fact that she is trying to be friends with them.

But no one will admit that alot of the dislike coming her way is over the fact that some are jealous of how easily she finds getting along with the lads of the house.

Put it another way, Lauren is more disliked than Adam, who has openly admitted to stealing and taking things from peoples bags. Who has had more than one argument in the house and who has taking to wetting people in their beds.

And then you have to take the person into consideration. Lauren does seem quite needy. She mentioned in her VT that women tend not to like her, its obviously something that has happened her entire life. Perhaps its something that she was hoping to amend in the house.

Its one of those situations that you can't win.

People don't like her for reason #A, this upsets her because she doesn't understand, so she gets upset, which p*sses people off and they call her fake. Then viewers start to complain.

But surely it would be more "fake" if she brushed it off? Catch 22, damned if she does, damned if she doesn't.

Originally Posted by sarakss (Post 5226362)

I feel for Lauren, though. Obviously, she's a sensitive person and is more emotional about things like that. Unfortunately, this does not work in her favor because the same people who dislike you for no reason are the same ones who would exploit your sensitivity and keep mistreating you. They abuse her, comfort her, and do it again - she's just an easy target for those bitchy cows.

She's experienced this many times on the outside and I think it was heartbreaking for her to be in such a small setting and still face these problems. She probably thinks something could be wrong with her if she can't find a way to connect to women while cooped up in a small house. Of course, the BB house is NOT the right place for this.


I hope she learns from this experience and not sweat the fact some people do not/will not like her. That's life. Some people are misunderstood, some are just bitches.

For her sake, she needs to brush this off so she does not ruin her big brother experience. She's a lot smarter and better-looking than the coked-up ferret we call Ashleigh - no use letting that fool ruin your time.

Originally Posted by rinkydinkpanther (Post 5226377)

I was in a boys only school so I know how groups of guys behave....but Id be interested to know if groups of women generally do behave like this?

Originally Posted by maryse12 (Post 5226532)

I really liked Lauren in the beginning but this 'victim' cry is getting old.

Originally Posted by kefln (Post 5226835)

I can understand that, but its worth having a think about the word "victim"...

Imagine being trapped in a very small house, with no contact with the outside world. Living there with a dozen strangers and having no communication with the people that ground you in life, friends or family.

Now imagine that you've done your best to get along with everyone. You haven't gotten involved in any arguments, you have been a team player. But half the house are out to get you. And you have no idea why.

Whats worse is that you are aware the world is watching. So whatever you did to upset these people has been seen by everyone you know and millions you don't.

Yet your HM's are fairly nice to you on a face to face basis. None have complained or pointed out any issues. You are trapped in a bubble of people being nice, who seem to hate you.

Just a thought...