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WozMan 18-07-2012 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5313828)
... Deana ... is rotten to the core IMO. When the series is over we will all know the truth.

I personally think Deana is a lost little girl. She very much sees herself as a lady and never raises her voice. She expresses her anger in a really gentle way and was very easily led astray by Shievonne. She has been desperate for a good friend in there for ages and also got played by Becky who it seems dropped her like a baked potato after passing her secret task.

She has also admitted quite openly that she is a negative person which to me screems low self-esteem.

Trasadkel1 18-07-2012 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5313828)
There is nothing worse than someone that cant accept someone elses point of view and tries to humiliate them into defeat. I post against Deana but never against her supporters personally. The only bad thing I say about her supporters is they are sadly deluded into thinking she is good. She is rotten to the core IMO. When the series is over we will all know the truth.

I agree with you. I too find Deana to be very calculated. She is far too miserable and depressing to be a winner. She is all doom and gloom and me, me, me. I stand by the fact that if it wasn't for Connors words she would never be popular.

I honestly have no favourite and really don't care who wins but I do genuinely think that Lauren will win this. I find aspects of her personality dislikeable but she has been a lot more involved and entertaining than Deana and has the sort of bubbly personality that BB like in a winner.

We had all this adoration for Rachel Rice when she won due to her "bullying" from Rex and look what people say about her winning now. She was positively animated in comparison to Deana and at least she was a chirpy character with it.

Josy 18-07-2012 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DigitalMethod (Post 5313851)
Clearly you lack fair judgement if you feel this is one-sided. :nono:

You clearly lack respect for other peoples opinions and you have proven that by trying to bait another member with images just because they posted something that you disagree with, now would possibly be a good time for you to re read the forum rules because baiting posts will earn you an infraction in future.

Now stay on topic please.

sampvt 18-07-2012 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DigitalMethod (Post 5313842)
lol Please quote me where ever I said anything that was a direct personal insult to you aside from suggesting your memory may be lacking? ...go on, Im waiting.

If you feel i'm trying to "humiliate" you into defeat by pointing out the flaws in your comments then... :spin: :wavey: Welcome, this is call a message board.

I dont think I need to point out your attacks things like poor you post and the way you patronise me is enough but you are right in one thing, This is a message board so why are anti deana posters hounded to death for their views. We have opinons as you guys do. Just because you dont like it, there is no reason to assume that if we dont agree with you that we are all stupid and our views dont deserve to be heard.

Josy is right,if you dont like what i say, skip over it and move on. If you stop and poke me, expect to be poked back, because if people you poke dont poke back, it gives you a false feeling of superiority and we all know what that means, you get labled a bully and nobody loves a bully so inadvertantly i am doing you a favour. No need to thank me though, all part of the service.

Jordan. 18-07-2012 12:16 AM

Because the forums have never been right about the winner before

http://i51.tinypic.com/4f6lw.jpg

DigitalMethod 18-07-2012 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 5313870)
You clearly lack respect for other peoples opinions and you have proven that by trying to bait another member with images just because they posted something that you disagree with, now would possibly be a good time for you to re read the forum rules because baiting posts will earn you an infraction in future.

Now stay on topic please.

Using gifs to express yourself is simply a form of expression. Sad you fail to see the humor where as others do. Im well aware of the rules and I'm also well aware you are no fan of Deana's.

So continue to micromanage my comments if you feel the need. I'm sure there are others here who can clearly see the favoritism.

Like i said to sampvt, show me the personal insults after he hinted that its been done towards him... In fact its even funny you would suggest that im looking for an argument when I've never had one on here all season.

So... anyway back on topic.




Yeah Deana is fave to win and her haters are mad. :dance:

DigitalMethod 18-07-2012 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 5313892)
Because the forums have never been right about the winner before

http://i51.tinypic.com/4f6lw.jpg

omfg ur using a gif. be careful. :hugesmile:

Jords 18-07-2012 12:20 AM

DigitalMethod is 1 of the fiercest members I have ever had the pleasures to stumble across.

DigitalMethod 18-07-2012 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 5313904)
DigitalMethod is 1 of the fiercest members I have ever had the pleasures to stumble across.

There is a reason i back Deana. I stand behind what i have to say like the queen...

Even if i means I'll get banned. So be it.

dathadiguy 18-07-2012 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 5313892)
Because the forums have never been right about the winner before

http://i51.tinypic.com/4f6lw.jpg

That's baiting you know AND you're a Deana fan, expect to be warned. :nono:

sampvt 18-07-2012 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 5313904)
DigitalMethod is 1 of the fiercest members I have ever had the pleasures to stumble across.

TBH I get a kick out of reading digitals posts (sorry dont know if you are male or female) but I hate being poked and will fight my corner if need be. If you read my posts, they are pointed but never nasty and if it is a returned poke, there is always levity in it somewhere. I am not an aggressive person nor am I a dick, I just dont like to be poked and humiliated or underminded.

Jesus you and i have crossed swords on a few occassions but Ive never been rude have I. In fact the very people sticking up for me have infracted me several times and \i deserved it. I argued one sentence too much so I took it on the chin but i am never nasty. Got to go to bow bows now so have a great night and lets hope Deana dosnt choke on her own venom, lol.

Soniamad 18-07-2012 12:40 AM

Folks, just for anybody who doesn't know, the bookies base their odds entirely on the amount of money that has been wagered (and that they consequently expect will be wagered) on any candidate. They use simple (though not simple enough that I could follow it!) maths to compute what their payout will be if any candidate wins. If the payout is too high and eats into their set margin, they'll shorten the odds on that candidate. Thus, Deana is favourite only because there's been more money put on her, than any of the others. They're not offering you an opinion of their own, but their odds do reflect the opinion of the people who're putting money on.

Now to the Deana situation. I've liked the girl since the start. But I'm kind of thinking she should walk now? I mean she is completely isolated in there. All the harrassment would melt anybody's head. Whatever she does, she'll be accussed of horrid behaviour. She can't win.

It is actually an interesting commentary on the human gang mentality. All of would like to think we'd stand up for the isolated housemate, but all evidence points to the contrary. It seems that if people are drip fed a story about a loner being a sneak, they will, without any clear cut evidence, eventually believe the story. They will persuade themsleves that instinct is more important than evidence, that all the others can't be wrong, and that the worst sin is their being taken for a mug. We'd all like to think that we'd wait for real evidence - but watching this show - it seems we wouldn't.

Jords 18-07-2012 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5313925)
TBH I get a kick out of reading digitals posts (sorry dont know if you are male or female) but I hate being poked and will fight my corner if need be. If you read my posts, they are pointed but never nasty and if it is a returned poke, there is always levity in it somewhere. I am not an aggressive person nor am I a dick, I just dont like to be poked and humiliated or underminded.

Jesus you and i have crossed swords on a few occassions but Ive never been rude have I. In fact the very people sticking up for me have infracted me several times and \i deserved it. I argued one sentence too much so I took it on the chin but i am never nasty. Got to go to bow bows now so have a great night and lets hope Deana dosnt choke on her own venom, lol.

I like that your posts are always thought-out Sam, in fact I think you might have a lot to offer to TiBB actually. But the hate in every thread is starting to grate. Let fans be fans and of course have your say when appropriate but it doesnt need to be the same thing repeated at any opportunity of a new thread.

The thing with fans is that they put a positive spin on the forum, haters make the forum quite negative. Dont get me wrong I give my fair share on Conor and now Becky but not everywhere and I try not to throw BS around about them. I like to keep it short and sweet (well maybe sour idk) because just talking about them can do my head-in after a while.

But no I certainly dont think youre a dick, especially just because we have different opinions. Thats why I like TiBB, because its a place where different opinions can meet and collide.

sampvt 18-07-2012 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 5313971)
I like that your posts are always thought-out Sam, in fact I think you might have a lot to offer to TiBB actually. But the hate in every thread is starting to grate. Let fans be fans and of course have your say when appropriate but it doesnt need to be the same thing repeated at any opportunity of a new thread.

The thing with fans is that they put a positive spin on the forum, haters make the forum quite negative. Dont get me wrong I give my fair share on Conor and now Becky but not everywhere and I try not to throw BS around about them. I like to keep it short and sweet (well maybe sour idk) because just talking about them can do my head-in after a while.

But no I certainly dont think youre a dick, especially just because we have different opinions. Thats why I like TiBB, because its a place where different opinions can meet and collide.

Point taken and I will reign in the nasty comments in the future. In my own defence, I guess I felt the need to shout louder (posting with poignant venom) because I was in the minority and felt like a loud shout counts for 4 soft ones, but you are right, it dosent help the forum.

TBH if someone comes back at one of my ideas or points and write a long diatribe of BS about me, I can handle it, but the ones that wind me up are the smart arses that come back with :nono: or :joker: or little ditties like yeah whatever, or ignore him etc etc. Those get my old Irish dander up and I resort to verbal assasination. Today is a new day and I will try a different tact. All because of you Jords.

smeagol 18-07-2012 08:48 AM

why are funny silly gif pics so hated here. its bewildering

waterhog 18-07-2012 08:51 AM

love Deana to win - make it so sweet to group nasty.

joeysteele 18-07-2012 09:01 AM

I think and am sure people here with more knowledge than me will correct me but Alex was favourite with the bookies last year for a fair while.
The bookies just want money, few housemates have been up for eviction this series,6 of the remaining 11 housemates have never been nominated for eviction,there has been really no strong public test as to their support.

Also from previous BB series, the favourites with them rarely win really,(as with horse racing too, I don't gamble really but loads of favourites at the bookies rarely win there too,even odds on ones).

The bookies also prefer favourites not to win because they pay less out then if they don't so they will just take money from anyone on virtually anything.
I take very little notice of the bookies really as they have been proven wrong on so many past winners.
They do better on evictions but even there usually only on the straight 2 way battles.

Josy 18-07-2012 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 5314134)
why are funny silly gif pics so hated here. its bewildering

Funny pics and gifs are not hated here at all, infact its quite the opposite, we post a lot of them but when they are used to delibrately try to rile a member up because they have a different opinion then its a whole different story.

Also certain members are attacking anyone who posts the slightest negative comment about thier favourite housemate, that is not on tbh, the rules have been bumped enough and we have given plenty of warnings about it on the main forum so if it contues then it will be infractions from now on.

sampvt 18-07-2012 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5314149)
I think and am sure people here with more knowledge than me will correct me but Alex was favourite with the bookies last year for a fair while.
The bookies just want money, few housemates have been up for eviction this series,6 of the remaining 11 housemates have never been nominated for eviction,there has been really no strong public test as to their support.

Also from previous BB series, the favourites with them rarely win really,(as with horse racing too, I don't gamble really but loads of favourites at the bookies rarely win there too,even odds on ones).

The bookies also prefer favourites not to win because they pay less out then if they don't so they will just take money from anyone on virtually anything.
I take very little notice of the bookies really as they have been proven wrong on so many past winners.
They do better on evictions but even there usually only on the straight 2 way battles.

I have some knowledge of making a book. The odds offered are calculated on payouts to give the bookie an overall percentage win margin. Before forming a book, bookies go in form and in this case they look at the forums. After this they calclate the amount of bets placed and form a percentage book based on loss and win ratios.

If say for example Conor is around 33/1 and he saves a dying kitten, the bookies will without money on him, shorten his odds becasue of a percieved shift through a good dee. If he on the other hand slaps a girl, his odds will drift for the same reasons and he hasnt had a penny on his ass from either events.

Trust me, the odds compilers at corals or Hills read these forums and take notice of whats what. They hate to wait for the smart money, they are always one step ahead. I backed Luke a at 1/2 to be evicted and he is now 2/5 and will go to worse than 1/4 by tomorrow.

rsefitpro2011 18-07-2012 11:28 AM

I don't think Deanas going to win!. I think shes a nice person, I wouldn't say shes calculated she can stand up for herself. I just feel some one like Adam, Lauren or even Sara may win!

joeysteele 18-07-2012 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5314254)
I have some knowledge of making a book. The odds offered are calculated on payouts to give the bookie an overall percentage win margin. Before forming a book, bookies go in form and in this case they look at the forums. After this they calclate the amount of bets placed and form a percentage book based on loss and win ratios.

If say for example Conor is around 33/1 and he saves a dying kitten, the bookies will without money on him, shorten his odds becasue of a percieved shift through a good dee. If he on the other hand slaps a girl, his odds will drift for the same reasons and he hasnt had a penny on his ass from either events.

Trust me, the odds compilers at corals or Hills read these forums and take notice of whats what. They hate to wait for the smart money, they are always one step ahead. I backed Luke a at 1/2 to be evicted and he is now 2/5 and will go to worse than 1/4 by tomorrow.


Thanks for that,I found that really interesting, a good insight to things,I appreciate your response that way to my post.

Suze 18-07-2012 11:51 AM

I don't know why, but when I read the BB forums, as I am not watching, I always get the Aisleyne effect vibe from posts re Deana, I never liked Aisleyne, but she played an astute game, but still only managed third place, even though near enough being hailed a saint on BB forums, so maybe Deana is having that Aisleyne effect, The same went for Alex last year, another who played an astute game was percieved to be the outright winner with the bookies, yet only managed third behind that rat Jay.

As usual though, BB will likely want a hero and a villian in the final two, so maybe we shouldn't be too surprised if Conor is there?


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