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HBB1508 25-07-2012 04:12 PM

I don't think it's double standards - if you put yourself in a girls shoes in the house - Scott threatening to slap you would make you wet yourself laughing as he is as ineffectual as a gnat, and he was drunk (not that it's an excuse just a fact),on the other hand if Conor threatened to punch you I think you would feel worried as the man looks menacing at the best of times and he wasn't drunk when he went off on the Deana rant.

sampvt 25-07-2012 04:58 PM

I am trying to rationalise this. On the one hand we have a jack the lad type who has no history of violence but in a rant he threatened to preform an act that was way past reality on all levels on someone well out of earshot and was at best a gobby and stupid thing to do but the girl was never in any danger based on the situation.

On the other hand we have a drunken gay man who who has a history who threatens to violate a girl TO HER FACE and BB decide to do nothing and the Deana deluded think Scotts actions were far worse. What planet are these people from. Both of them should be out here now no questions asked but to say Scott is naughty but conor is violent is way past logical.

sampvt 25-07-2012 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HBB1508 (Post 5335048)
I don't think it's double standards - if you put yourself in a girls shoes in the house - Scott threatening to slap you would make you wet yourself laughing as he is as ineffectual as a gnat, and he was drunk (not that it's an excuse just a fact),on the other hand if Conor threatened to punch you I think you would feel worried as the man looks menacing at the best of times and he wasn't drunk when he went off on the Deana rant.

Being inefectual because of size and demeanor is a BS comparison, ask the victims of Peter sutcliffe or Myra Hindley. Neither of them came across as burly and outwardly nasty. You only need to look at laura, small pocket rocket with a black belt. SCOTT SHOULDNT BE THERE . he should be out here on his dads sofe speaking normal again.

Vicky. 25-07-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5335109)
I am trying to rationalise this. On the one hand we have a jack the lad type who has no history of violence but in a rant he threatened to preform an act that was way past reality on all levels on someone well out of earshot and was at best a gobby and stupid thing to do but the girl was never in any danger based on the situation.

On the other hand we have a drunken gay man who who has a history who threatens to violate a girl TO HER FACE and BB decide to do nothing and the Deana deluded think Scotts actions were far worse. What planet are these people from. Both of them should be out here now no questions asked but to say Scott is naughty but conor is violent is way past logical.

'Scott was called to the Diary Room and reminded about the rules regarding behaviour in the house.'

BB did exactly the same to him as they did to conor.


Anyway, IF this story is true, I wonder if we will see it. Have we seen any of scotts supposed other warnings? (besides the eating with her hands thing)

sampvt 25-07-2012 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5335126)
'Scott was called to the Diary Room and reminded about the rules regarding behaviour in the house.'

BB did exactly the same to him as they did to conor.


Anyway, IF this story is true, I wonder if we will see it. Have we seen any of scotts supposed other warnings? (besides the eating with her hands thing)

Vicky I thought they called conor in and gave him a formal warning. They also called Scott in and gave him a formal for insulting Deana. Were they both not on final warnings, that was my perception anyway. If so BB did nothing other than warn him but if he was already on his last full and final formal warning, they effectivle did nothing. Am I wrong here, just checking. This q is based on what has been reported, we are not even sure Conor was on a final formal but we saw BB give Scott his on the BOTS show.

Vicky. 25-07-2012 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5335116)
Being inefectual because of size and demeanor is a BS comparison, ask the victims of Peter sutcliffe or Myra Hindley. Neither of them came across as burly and outwardly nasty. You only need to look at laura, small pocket rocket with a black belt. SCOTT SHOULDNT BE THERE . he should be out here on his dads sofe speaking normal again.

Agree with this 100%

We had the same with Tom last year. he could threaten violence and act agressive (kicking things at people in a rage etc) but because he was small and scrawny noone cared. Whereas jay just had to look at someone the wrong way and people were screaming he was an agressive bully and should be thrown out...and I was by no means a fan of Jay either but it was unfair


I do think though, part of the reason people dont seem seem to be as wound up as with the conor thing is because they havent actually seen it like they saw that. There was pure venom in the way conor said it and he later admitted himself it was out of anger (not banter as some of his fans originally claimed). If this was shown (even just in a fb vid) and scott seemed very serious when he said these things, I would expect an uproar too. Its a bit hard to get upset at a story printed in the daily star, especially given their track record with BB. Obviously theres a few members who would only kick off if it was deana on the recieving end, but on the same note there are members who would play down anything that happened to deana while kicking off if te same thing happened to another housemate

Vicky. 25-07-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5335135)
Vicky I thought they called conor in and gave him a formal warning. They also called Scott in and gave him a formal for insulting Deana. Were they both not on final warnings, that was my perception anyway. If so BB did nothing other than warn him but if he was already on his last full and final formal warning, they effectivle did nothing. Am I wrong here, just checking. This q is based on what has been reported, we are not even sure Conor was on a final formal but we saw BB give Scott his on the BOTS show.

I have only seen it in daily star articles that scott was on his final warning...I dont know if its been confirmed elsewhere?

And what we saw of conor, he got a slight ticking off. yeah BOTS claimed (after the outrage about him just getting slightly told off) that he recieved a formal warning...however I still believe if that did happen, we would have seen it...the same as we saw the formal warnings for racism each time.

Assuming scott was indeed on his final warning, and this story is true and they have just told him off this time, then yes, final warnings are useless.

smeagol 25-07-2012 05:15 PM

did anyone see the warning when scott drank the aftershave? i didn't even see him do it or the warning unless i missed it. ??

Vicky. 25-07-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 5335155)
did anyone see the warning when scott drank the aftershave? i didn't even see him do it or the warning unless i missed it. ??

As far as I know, that was just another daily star article too :S

Beso 25-07-2012 05:18 PM

I hope he's willing to face the backlash of the ripple.

fitz2k2 25-07-2012 05:18 PM

there bot booting anyone out meaning you can do whatever you want

smeagol 25-07-2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5335157)
As far as I know, that was just another daily star article too :S

oh i didn't think i saw it. its true though as emma spoke to his dad on bots the other night. and mentioned it. wonder why it wasn't shown

Vicky. 25-07-2012 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 5335173)
oh i didn't think i saw it. its true though as emma spoke to his dad on bots the other night. and mentioned it. wonder why it wasn't shown

Hmm...its possible then that there is actually a bit of truth to these DS articles

As for it not being shown, maybe they thought it would attract a lot of complaints (people saying the hms arent looked after properly etc)

I dont know why I have so much faith in the producers to show us the full story after they completely covered up freezergate (and any convo relating to it) last year really :joker:

dyfed 25-07-2012 05:28 PM

When watching bots last night,Emma spoke to Scott's dad,they must be from different parts of the UK,as Scott and his Dad's accent was so different.....

chuff me dizzy 25-07-2012 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5334912)
Well I do think Chuffs right that the reaction would be a bit different if Conor said it or if it was said to Deana..

EXACTLY, Bunch of hypocrits

chuff me dizzy 25-07-2012 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HBB1508 (Post 5335048)
I don't think it's double standards - if you put yourself in a girls shoes in the house - Scott threatening to slap you would make you wet yourself laughing as he is as ineffectual as a gnat, and he was drunk (not that it's an excuse just a fact),on the other hand if Conor threatened to punch you I think you would feel worried as the man looks menacing at the best of times and he wasn't drunk when he went off on the Deana rant.

Of course its double standards Scott is a bloke the same as Luke ,S Adam etc and Becky is a woman the same as Sara,Deana ,double standards because its happened to Becky(disliked by majority,house laughing stock) instead of Deana(put on a pedestal)

armand.kay 25-07-2012 05:56 PM

How on earth can a thread about Scott and Becky turn into another Deana hate thread. :idc:

coolface 25-07-2012 06:08 PM

lol I don't blame him who wouldn't want to slap her

Ramsay 25-07-2012 06:09 PM

chuff is making some good points

dyfed 25-07-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by coolface (Post 5335281)
lol I don't blame him who wouldn't want to slap her

:joker::joker::joker:

Saph 25-07-2012 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 5334895)
he hit back: “It’s the truth, bitch. Just kick me out of the house.”

:laugh2: I love him more now

optimisticcynic 25-07-2012 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5335116)
Being inefectual because of size and demeanor is a BS comparison, ask the victims of Peter sutcliffe or Myra Hindley. Neither of them came across as burly and outwardly nasty. You only need to look at laura, small pocket rocket with a black belt. SCOTT SHOULDNT BE THERE . he should be out here on his dads sofe speaking normal again.

There ARE times when reading your posts can make me nod in agreement and even chuckle. Love the last line!

Beso 25-07-2012 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by HBB1508 (Post 5335048)
I don't think it's double standards - if you put yourself in a girls shoes in the house - Scott threatening to slap you would make you wet yourself laughing as he is as ineffectual as a gnat, and he was drunk (not that it's an excuse just a fact),on the other hand if Conor threatened to punch you I think you would feel worried as the man looks menacing at the best of times and he wasn't drunk when he went off on the Deana rant.

This, even though I seriously doubt connor would harm anyone.

chuff me dizzy 25-07-2012 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl (Post 5335284)
chuff is making some good points

No man ,no matter who he is should be allowed ( never mind cheered on as some on here are doing ) to threaten to hit any woman in the face, the uproar when Conor made a threat was OTT,But this one because Becky is not liked is ok ? Oh no its not

Censored 25-07-2012 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Yayita (Post 5335415)
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Just because he's weak-looking and Connor's strong doesn't make it OK for one and not the other.

Personally, I don't think either one has done much wrong other than say something obnoxious in the heat of the moment. People are taking this stuff way too seriously. It's hardly fight night!


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