I worry.. I really do, what example is this to our sons and young men? That they can accuse women of 'leading them on' hound them for attention even after being politely told that they are involved with other men?...It's just weird.

yes, as long as the woman is always 100 per cent wrong and keeps her apron on:joker:

...I think that's the crux of the matter for the 'boys'...maybe having such a low opinion of women who use their looks to make money they felt that they would be 'easy' to get and when they realised they were dealing with independent young women who have higher standards than just a bunch of immature, randy lads..their egos couldn't take it and they turned on them because of it...embarrassed and vengeful - it's a story as old as time :spin:

I don't think Rhian did much of anything wrong other than being too attractive.

Danica repeatedly went over the line but I don't think she realizes that she does, however she isn't blameless.

The two boys run themselves into brick walls repeatedly and get sympathy for it? There aren't many situations where you can do something stupid and harmful to yourself and people don't tell you that you are stupid and blame you for your own problems.

Must be nice to be a man. Women today still get blamed for their own rapes. Men are still excused for bad behavior far too often.

and even worse excused by women who really should know better.

Vernon Kaye is a prime example, he got off rather lightly considering he was in his 30s, and had the wife and kids. Rhian was 20 and had her head turned by his attentions, she was the one that got berated and belittled for it. Case closed.

I agree, some celebs are given 'demi-god' status and it stinks!
julie and ashley are too imo.. One for being an aged soap actress and one for lastin 4 mins in the olympics!...:conf:
It's all wrong, why are others judged as 'mere mortals'?...
Sams sycophantic chunterings are all to common, if ashley has shot rhian sam would have said she threw herself under the bullet!

samantha was 100% right. women and feminists need to finally realise equality works both ways and we are all sick of the anti male abuse and sexism.

Women should adopt chauvinistic attitudes?...I hope its not in my lifetime .