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Irene Pearson 06-09-2012 01:15 PM

Quite agree. Some of the comments are vile.People hiding behind their anonymity spewing out abuse to anyone who has a differing opinion IMO is cowardice and immaturity.This site however is a lot better than some where the real nutters go to have fun.

Marsh. 06-09-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Patricia4 (Post 5467705)
She didnt win though Julie filled her up and her gob shut very quickly.:joker:

This doesn't make any sense to me. But Julie just showed herself up.

Someone briefly pointed out a home truth she didn't like and Julie got all defensive because she knows Linda was right.

Clootie Dumpling 06-09-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by toto7 (Post 5467634)
tottally agree ...and who did her makeup ??? julian probably..dark green sparkly eye shadow...leave it to the teenagers granny..and YOU ARE NOT IN CORRIE ANYMORE !!!so ditch the stupid saying and the leopard print..you just look desperate and sad...but that sums her up !!!

Well said, Toto. :hugesmile:

I also agree with other posters that Emma Willis, and Brian to a lesser extent, pretty much rolled over and let the old hag have full rein to vent her bile as much as she wanted to.

Julie had the opportunity to put her hands up and say, 'Yes, I was playing a game, pretending to love them all when they really pissed me off', which she'd never do, we know. It was the job of the presenters to confront her with the obvious contradiction in her claims to be simultaneously 'real' (rude and hateful) and 'a good actress' (pretending to be nice). Brian did this to some extent, but Emma's performance was fawning and cringeworthy.

The CBB production team had the opportunity of showing Julie a few clips, like the 'pie in the face' clip, alongside the lies she told to HMs, and confronting her about her duplicity.

What really annoyed me was the decision to allow Julie to be exposed to her fellow HMs and have to deal with some of the flack as a result of her bad behaviour, then throw her a rope at the last minute, via the newsreader task, in an attempt to 'rehabilitate' her just before she was due to be booted out of the show. This supplied Emma with the chance to look at the 'lighter' side of Juie's bad behaviour and ignore most of the bullying and vitriol.

Fosse 06-09-2012 01:46 PM

Ultimately, Julie is pretty thick..

Her vile behaviour was transparent to everyone.

PrincessIona 06-09-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 5467630)
I thought watching both the eviction interview and the later appearance on BOTS that Chulie Badyear was pretty much allowed to say anything she wanted without reproach from any of the interviewers. I also thought she actually intimidated both Brian and Emma to the point where they did not want to get into any area where the Hagster held the opposite view.

you could actually sense the fear coming from them both in their verbal exchanges and in their body language. They were both probably thinking ".... gets this *******ed up old Hag away from me".......

It shows their limits as presenters but to be fair she (Hagster) intimidated everyone around her including panellists and audience alike.

Bet BB will think twice in future about putting someone like her in the show...!!!

Exactly, it was clear they were too scared.. But what did they think would happen?

At the beginning of bots Emma said they would be asking the questions "that Brian didn't have the balls to ask" but when it came down to it she was worse then him.

Even when Linda stood up to her you could see she was very intimidated.

Also, why didn't the audience get to ask any questions?

Clootie Dumpling 06-09-2012 01:55 PM

[QUOTE=PrincessIona;5467806]Exactly, it was clear they were too scared.. But what did they think would happen?

At the beginning of bots Emma said they would be asking the questions "that Brian didn't have the balls to ask" but when it came down to it she was worse then him.

Even when Linda stood up to her you could see she was very intimidated.

Also, why didn't the audience get to ask any questions?[/QUOTE]

Was I imagining it, or did BBBOTS have a different audience for Julie (i.e. a lot of Julie supporters) than they did for Lorenzo?

If it was the same one, they were applauding Lorenzo for standing up to Julie, then applauding Julie for being a vile old bat, which doesn't make sense - unless they were just acting like sheep and doing what the floor manager told them to do.

kefln 06-09-2012 02:19 PM

This hardly surprises me.

Jasmine was given an open mike to spew and was never challenged. Samantha made some horrid comments, but was never challenged. So why should they challenge Julie?

However Danica had to answer some very hard questions and her "behaviour" has been part of nearly every interview we've seen.

Its a hedge betting system that they have. They tackle those that they feel confident that they can control.

the truth 06-09-2012 02:27 PM

nah. julies behaviour was nowhere near as bad as youre trying to portray. what did she said that bad, colleens fat ass coment was out of order, she said danica deserved to be handcuffed (when shes was tied to the prince) that was harmless fun, she said she should get more respect, thats her opinion fine, she asked harvey if he was voting lorenzo, ok that was game play , harvey and co have their own code which means they will never vote for each other, that too is game play, she was upset over nomination, she said they should all feel guilty as hell, big deal. she said she needed a break from jasmine for a while, fair call, jasmine was a nightmare

she wasnt performing that was her she was herself. she was very genuinee much of the time, so she kissed people she voted for, so what? thats the game. she was aazing entertainment and did say many things to peoples face far more than anyone else.

everyone else is even more fake and not being theselves imho

Clootie Dumpling 06-09-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kefln (Post 5467834)
This hardly surprises me.

Jasmine was given an open mike to spew and was never challenged. Samantha made some horrid comments, but was never challenged. So why should they challenge Julie?

However Danica had to answer some very hard questions and her "behaviour" has been part of nearly every interview we've seen.

Its a hedge betting system that they have. They tackle those that they feel confident that they can control.

I think you're right, Kefln. I'm also fed up that they continue to make snide references to Danica. Julie doesnt hold a candle to Danica when it comes down holding your hands up to questionable behaviour. Danica took her criticism on the chin and answered some difficult questions with real integrity, whereas Julie admitted nothing, apologised for nothing and was barely challenged about anything.

the truth 06-09-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Clootie Dumpling (Post 5467848)
I think you're right, Kefln. I'm also fed up that they continue to make snide references to Danica. Julie doesnt hold a candle to Danica when it comes down holding your hands up to questionable behaviour. Danica took her criticism on the chin and answered some difficult questions with real integrity, whereas Julie admitted nothing, apologised for nothing and was barely challenged about anything.

rubbish danica is the fakest person in the world. she just said what the crowd wanted to hear, they immediately went back to being a rinser and celebrating rinsing another bunch of lonely broken hearted old en for £6000
Im amazed you fell for her 3 minute fake apology after a lifetime of disgusting rinsing. :conf:

Clootie Dumpling 06-09-2012 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5467845)
nah. julies behaviour was nowhere near as bad as youre trying to portray. what did she said that bad, colleens fat ass coment was out of order, she said danica deserved to be handcuffed (when shes was tied to the prince) that was harmless fun, she said she should get more respect, thats her opinion fine, she asked harvey if he was voting lorenzo, ok that was game play , harvey and co have their own code which means they will never vote for each other, that too is game play, she was upset over nomination, she said they should all feel guilty as hell, big deal. she said she needed a break from jasmine for a while, fair call, jasmine was a nightmare

she wasnt performing that was her she was herself. she was very genuinee much of the time, so she kissed people she voted for, so what? thats the game. she was aazing entertainment and did say many things to peoples face far more than anyone else.

everyone else is even more fake and not being theselves imho

She initiated a conversation with Coleen, saying she 'loved' her leopard (Lep) print top and Coleen replied politely, showing her the other half of the outfit. As soon as the conversation ended and Coleen had moved out of earshot, Julie muttered *****ing twat' under her breath.

Clootie Dumpling 06-09-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5467853)
rubbish danica is the fakest person in the world. she just said what the crowd wanted to hear, they immediately went back to being a rinser and celebrating rinsing another bunch of lonely broken hearted old en for £6000
Im amazed you fell for her 3 minute fake apology after a lifetime of disgusting rinsing. :conf:

My opinion wasn't influenced by the mere '3 minutes' you mention in her exit interview but are based on how she came across in the house.

I also think that if 'lonely, broken hearted old men' (or dirty-minded voyeurs) are stupid enough to want to send presents to someone based on a phone call or online conversation, then they deserve all they get.

the truth 06-09-2012 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Clootie Dumpling (Post 5467855)
She initiated a conversation with Coleen, saying she 'loved' her leopard (Lep) print top and Coleen replied politely, showing her the other half of the outfit. As soon as the conversation ended and Coleen had moved out of earshot, Julie muttered *****ing twat' under her breath.

didnt see that. that is rude I wont lie. no doubt 3 weeks with fake colleen in that environment does affect a 70 year old woman. dont forget colleen said many mean things about julie pretty much on an hourly basis, including the infamous, everyone would love to stick a pie in bet lynchs face. theyre as bad as each other, although I maintain at least julie was entertaining. colleen doesnt belong in the entertainent business at all.

kefln 06-09-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5467853)
rubbish danica is the fakest person in the world. she just said what the crowd wanted to hear, they immediately went back to being a rinser and celebrating rinsing another bunch of lonely broken hearted old en for £6000
Im amazed you fell for her 3 minute fake apology after a lifetime of disgusting rinsing. :conf:

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5467845)
nah. julies behaviour was nowhere near as bad as youre trying to portray.
....
she wasnt performing that was her she was herself. she was very genuinee much of the time

How can these two posts have come from the same person? :hugesmile:

Everyone in the house is pretty much in agreement that Julie was the biggest player in there. She never confronted anyone, she just told someone that she loved them, before slaughtering them behind their backs.

She was even caught out for trying to fix the vote.


I find it funny to see that people will let some HM's get away with anything, but d*mn others to hell, simply because they disagree with the HM's career choice.

Julie is a "respected" actress, but is in reality a complete b*tch with a massive sense of self importance. Danica is a glamour model and phone sex worker, but tried her best to get on with as many in the house as possible. Julie has no problem slating people inside and outside of the house. Danica was polite and never raised to the bait, even when told that Samantha called her poison.

Goes to show that "fame" and "respectability" don't necessarily make for nice people. While some glamour models are living proof that you should never judge a book by its cover.

Clootie Dumpling 06-09-2012 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5467862)
didnt see that. that is rude I wont lie. no doubt 3 weeks with fake colleen in that environment does affect a 70 year old woman. dont forget colleen said many mean things about julie pretty much on an hourly basis, including the infamous, everyone would love to stick a pie in bet lynchs face. theyre as bad as each other, although I maintain at least julie was entertaining. colleen doesnt belong in the entertainent business at all.

We've obviously got two very different perspectives.

From my POV, Julie has done the 'I love you', closely followed by a muttered insult so many times that it more than cancels out any of her 'entertaining moments. And I honestly don't think ther have been many.

Coleen, on the other hand, who I was prepared to dislike because I hate 'Loose Women', comes across as genuine and I have really felt for her at times, particularly when Julie bullied her by cornering her on the sofa after her news bulletin revealing that Coleen had talked about the ciggie-hogging incident - squeezing her cheeks really hard, groping her boobs and kissing her on the lips, while snarling 'endearments' at her.

kefln 06-09-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5467862)
didnt see that. that is rude I wont lie. no doubt 3 weeks with fake colleen in that environment does affect a 70 year old woman. dont forget colleen said many mean things about julie pretty much on an hourly basis, including the infamous, everyone would love to stick a pie in bet lynchs face. theyre as bad as each other, although I maintain at least julie was entertaining. colleen doesnt belong in the entertainent business at all.

Julie had a problem with alot of the HM's and talked about it constantly. All the while sucking up to their faces. At 70 you'd imagine she'd have more respect/understanding.

Coleen bitched about Julie, mainly about the way that Julie was treating her and others in the house.

Its interesting to note that most of the HM's, including those that were close to Julie, are now all pally with Coleen.

Put it all together and you find that Coleen was correct and Julie was two-faced and playing everyone from the start...

Ellen 06-09-2012 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Clootie Dumpling (Post 5467872)
We've obviously got two very different perspectives.

From my POV, Julie has done the 'I love you', closely followed by a muttered insult so many times that it more than cancels out any of her 'entertaining moments. And I honestly don't think ther have been many.

Coleen, on the other hand, who I was prepared to dislike because I hate 'Loose Women', comes across as genuine and I have really felt for her at times, particularly when Julie bullied her by cornering her on the sofa after her news bulletin revealing that Coleen had talked about the ciggie-hogging incident - squeezing her cheeks really hard, groping her boobs and kissing her on the lips, while snarling 'endearments' at her.

Snarling endearments? lol Julie was been sarcastic & taking the piss out of Coleen.

Clootie Dumpling 06-09-2012 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 5467881)
Snarling endearments? lol Julie was been sarcastic & taking the piss out of Coleen.

'You say potato ...etc.'

Yes, that was the upshot. It was a shame no-one came to Coleen's rescue by pointing this out while she was doing it. Because no-one did or said anything, Julie could continue to deny that she had been 'overtly' nasty to Coleen, which is exactly what she did.

boomoo 06-09-2012 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Silent Scream (Post 5466984)
Well silly me for thinking Julie should have been taken to task for her disgusting behaviour in the house. Maybe she would have learned something if everyone wasn't fawning all over her despite her vile behaviour.

Young people watch this showing thinking Jesus I can't believe what she's just said then Emma comes along and says it's okay this kind of thing is absolutely fine after all haha it's all a big game don't worry about a woman in the DR who was close to a breakdown.

Get it, got it, good? WTF does that even mean?

The collective IQ of this country gets lower every single day.

Are you saying that Coleen was in the Diary Room close to a breakdown?
She looked like a bad tempered child squealing on a sister.
She was nowhere near a breakdown as the rest of her time in the house has shown. Even her own children told her in their letter to stop crying.

boomoo 06-09-2012 06:02 PM

[QUOTE=Clootie Dumpling;5467813]
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Originally Posted by PrincessIona (Post 5467806)
Exactly, it was clear they were too scared.. But what did they think would happen?

At the beginning of bots Emma said they would be asking the questions "that Brian didn't have the balls to ask" but when it came down to it she was worse then him.

Even when Linda stood up to her you could see she was very intimidated.

Also, why didn't the audience get to ask any questions?[/QUOTE]

Was I imagining it, or did BBBOTS have a different audience for Julie (i.e. a lot of Julie supporters) than they did for Lorenzo?

If it was the same one, they were applauding Lorenzo for standing up to Julie, then applauding Julie for being a vile old bat, which doesn't make
sense - unless they were just acting like sheep and doing what the floor
manager told them to do.

Well there you have it. The majority of people are sheep. World wars have proved that. Those who object are removed either shot or imprisoned. Outside of war the same pack rules are in place. You put your head over the parapet and you will get it shot off. So most people prefer to keep quiet.
Lorenzo had a fairly agreeable audience. There was some dissent over Julie but it was quickly subdued by other people in the audience. It makes no difference what Emma put to Julie, the answers would have been the same ie 'That's me'. She believes in herself to survive.

pcro 06-09-2012 11:45 PM

People who take Big Brother too seriously is bad enough. But too take CELEB Big Brother too serriously borders on sad. Hardly any house mates ever get badgered on BOTS. Did you expect too beat Julie over the head with a shovel? JFC, some people need to get a grip and watch thos show with the proper perspective.

Clootie Dumpling 07-09-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pcro (Post 5468987)
People who take Big Brother too seriously is bad enough. But too take CELEB Big Brother too serriously borders on sad. Hardly any house mates ever get badgered on BOTS. Did you expect too beat Julie over the head with a shovel? JFC, some people need to get a grip and watch thos show with the proper perspective.

Calm down, pcro. Taking CBB 'too' seriously is one thing, but taking CBB forum posters comments too seriously is quite another. :hugesmile:

rusticgal 07-09-2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 5466908)
Terrible,it's safe to say now that Emma Willis is a crap presenter,she was so far up Julies arse she could see daylight,utter disgraceful the way they let that old cow talk about the other housemates.

I have only just watched it and I could not believe how they all licked her arse!!!. The ONLY one to confront Julie on her TWO FACED behaviour was Linda Lusardi. Then 1 or 2 audience members joined in. Julie went very quiet saying 'Did I?'... Everyone seems too scared to challenge her on her blatent behaviour. They even showed her Martins moment of warning the boys to be careful... and let her rip into Martin for being a 'two-faced bastard'...and everyone applauded her.
I watched Coronation street about the time she was in it...and yes she played a good character but she strutts around as though everyone should bow and curtsey to her.
Then she said I just want to grow old gracefully and be shown respect and then promptly comes out with a tirade of '****ing this and ****ing that'!! She should know as she is in those 'mature' years that respect has to be earned and thats not by just playing a big character on a TV soap....and showing us that in real life she is nothing but a demanding Diva who smokes like a chimney...chews gum like a camel...curses like no other 70 year old would and has a face like a screwed up paper bag!!

Julie Goodyear there is nothing endearing about you at all...you are a false person who people simply would not trust or believe a word you say.

flamingGalah! 07-09-2012 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 5470069)
I have only just watched it and I could not believe how they all licked her arse!!!. The ONLY one to confront Julie on her TWO FACED behaviour was Linda Lusardi. Then 1 or 2 audience members joined in. Julie went very quiet saying 'Did I?'... Everyone seems too scared to challenge her on her blatent behaviour. They even showed her Martins moment of warning the boys to be careful... and let her rip into Martin for being a 'two-faced bastard'...and everyone applauded her.
I watched Coronation street about the time she was in it...and yes she played a good character but she strutts around as though everyone should bow and curtsey to her.
Then she said I just want to grow old gracefully and be shown respect and then promptly comes out with a tirade of '****ing this and ****ing that'!! She should know as she is in those 'mature' years that respect has to be earned and thats not by just playing a big character on a TV soap....and showing us that in real life she is nothing but a demanding Diva who smokes like a chimney...chews gum like a camel...curses like no other 70 year old would and has a face like a screwed up paper bag!!

Julie Goodyear there is nothing endearing about you at all...you are a false person who people simply would not trust or believe a word you say.

Actually she said she wanted to "grow old DISgracefully" :D

Quite rightly they treated her her BOTS with the respect she deserved & she put that tart Linda Lusardi in her place too :xyxwave:

Kazanne 07-09-2012 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Clootie Dumpling (Post 5467855)
She initiated a conversation with Coleen, saying she 'loved' her leopard (Lep) print top and Coleen replied politely, showing her the other half of the outfit. As soon as the conversation ended and Coleen had moved out of earshot, Julie muttered *****ing twat' under her breath.

I saw that Clootie,that was a defining moment for me,a truly nasty vile person,people are saying how nice she is and they haven't even seen the nastiness against Coleen, apparently!!!


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