Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 5652812)

I think the Child abuse that is mentioned in the opening post refers to the years of playground abuse name calling and bullying the poor unsuspecting child will have to endure after he or she inadvertently lets it slip that he/she has two daddies and no mummy and that his/her two daddies sleep together in a big bed.

Children can be particularly cruel....!!!!

Originally Posted by ukturtle (Post 5653406)

Children can be cruel, but that cannot be labelled child abuse from letting homosexuals adopt.

Originally Posted by Jamie585 (Post 5652367)

Haha, He also looks like a complete *****

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5653382)

A basic human right should be a loving home.
are we not seeking to eradicate, racism, sexism and religious intolerance?
The best way to do this is to teach children that to coexist is the norm.
To reaffirm negative attitudes and stereotypes that same sex relationships are 'unnatural' is to me against their human rights...
The right to formulate their own opinions

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 5653362)

The words of moronic bigots mean very little to me.

Gender and sexuality doesn't matter when it comes to good parenting, I bet most children in the system just want a loving home and wouldn't care if their parents were gay or not. A good home is a good home and they are in short supply these days so there's no point in limiting them even further.

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5653747)

Once again you hijack a thread and manipulate it to suit your own agenda....
In my post the intention of using the word 'equality' was deliberate. It shows how I feel, that the rights of couples to adopt should not be called into question before, during or after the adoption procedure.
This individual is entitled to his personal opinion... however, when those opinions become a political ideology then it becomes a problem.
The decision to remove these children from the supporters of UKIP was wrong, as you say they are entitled as individuals to believe whatever they like.
It's when whole parties unite to marginalize certain groups that you have a real problem with equality....

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5653834)

Two wrongs do not make a right. To redress the so called balance, by discriminating against the alleged oppressor is plain wrong. besides its the wrong target to start with. White men havent ruled the world, rich people have. As for discrimiantion, Ive read posters on here printing drivel like white men should burn etc I would also add what whiite men and women did hundreds of years ago is not the responsibility of todays white men and women. the law should be equally applied.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5653861)

Who is discriminating against white straight men here? Please stick to the topic and do not derail this thread.

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5653866)

I hope you preach this to the other posters on this thread too, the ones who you may agree with too

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5653340)

I cannot believe there is support for this behaviour....
Are we not living in an elightened age where intolerance is frowned upon?
I worry, we appear to be stuck firmly in reverse here ...If we allow the dark ages of forbidden love and dirty family secrets to be the way to live for same sex couples!
Children up and down the UK are crying out for loving families, how draconian to suggest that cannot nurture or provide the stability and guidence kids need!
I do not find it 'lazy' to compare them to the BNP either, this kind of influence that demonises people because of their sexual preference, is not a million miles from their views of foreigners to me.
What is happening to equality?
Has anyone actually asked the children in these cases their view?
No... It seems it is the blinkered, new right attitudes that in my opinion have no place in modern day society.

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5653879)

Kizzy brought up the issues of equality which is why we got sidetracked

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5653924)

Rubbish. what a dangerously oversimplified racist rewriting of 1000s of years of human history. for starters China is now probably the richest nation on earth, do you measure them all as white males? As for seeking the power out of white mens hands, a term I find racist, if you want to do it , do it legitimately not by allowing discrimination against the white man. The fact is the british built an empire due to their control of the seas and the ruthlessness of their monarchy. Its not a matter of skin colour or sexuality, its simply a matter of greed and competitive advantage. Im not remotely angry but thanks for pretending to care.

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5653340)

I cannot believe there is support for this behaviour....
Are we not living in an elightened age where intolerance is frowned upon?
I worry, we appear to be stuck firmly in reverse here ...If we allow the dark ages of forbidden love and dirty family secrets to be the way to live for same sex couples!
Children up and down the UK are crying out for loving families, how draconian to suggest that cannot nurture or provide the stability and guidence kids need!
I do not find it 'lazy' to compare them to the BNP either, this kind of influence that demonises people because of their sexual preference, is not a million miles from their views of foreigners to me.
What is happening to equality?
Has anyone actually asked the children in these cases their view?
No... It seems it is the blinkered, new right attitudes that in my opinion have no place in modern day society.

Originally Posted by JH95 (Post 5653928)

And you say that Kizzy side-tracked :whistle:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5653964)

A loving gay couple in a stable relationship would be far better parents and have more to offer a child than some fifteen year old child who gets pregnant. It's only fifty or so years since people could be imprisoned for being gay. We have come a long way... unfortunately there are still dinosaurs around. Give it a couple of generations and we might be worthy of calling ourselves a society.

I imagine there were a few people at UKIP yesterday who resembled Munch's "The Scream" when they heard this idiot's comments.

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5654095)

Yes attitudes to homosexuals have changed, so too I thought had those towards teen mums.
They were themselves stigmatized and sometimes institutionalized due to the attitudes of the day.
there will always be bigotry and prejudice, Rochdale council should never have been allowed make these decisions.
Do they think 'clamping' down will make up for years of failings within the city?
I fail to see their logic for this action.