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Edwin 29-07-2006 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by GlitterEyes
Maybe he wants the money for her or something. You have to give him credit for not playing for the sympathy vote and going on none stop about his mum.
Maybe a small bit of credit for that, but i'm not giving him pity. People contract cancer all the time in the world and it's a horrid disease, but feeling sorry for one person because they've had some exposure is a pointless excercise.

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Originally posted by GlitterEyes
On his profile he is honest saying he wants to go on bb for the cash so maybe that plays some part.
perhaps, but it means that he's more likely to manipulate the public because he has more determination.

EmilyJ 29-07-2006 12:18 AM

Yeah what she said :hugesmile:

GlitterEyes 29-07-2006 12:22 AM

It is only now that we knew about his mum, he has been getting more & more fans for weeks now. The fact she was/is ill/recovering will not have much of an effect as I think its a private matter and it is not like Rich has gone down the poor me route. He has stayed a VERY strong character with all that in the background and sometimes that must be playing on his mind but it doesn't show. He is not going for sympathy or wanting it, he is being himself in the house and he shows and says what he feels and that is a big thing to admire.

If anything the letter had more of an effect on the other housemates likle Michael he felt really guilty because he was being off and set out to get him since he went in not knowing about his mother. The fact even the press and papers were unaware of this also makes it better.

His letter was emotional but he isn't making it into a huge matter so I don't think we should either, he isn't the first person to have an ill family/friend member and sure wont be the last but the way he has handled it in the background has been amazing.

texbex 29-07-2006 12:23 AM

soz but a neva read it where can a c a copy off it

Edwin 29-07-2006 12:30 AM

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Originally posted by GlitterEyes
It is only now that we knew about his mum, he has been getting more & more fans for weeks now. The fact she was/is ill/recovering will not have much of an effect as I think its a private matter and it is not like Rich has gone down the poor me route. He has stayed a VERY strong character with all that in the background and sometimes that must be playing on his mind but it doesn't show. He is not going for sympathy or wanting it, he is being himself in the house and he shows and says what he feels and that is a big thing to admire.

If anything the letter had more of an effect on the other housemates likle Michael he felt really guilty because he was being off and set out to get him since he went in not knowing about his mother. The fact even the press and papers were unaware of this also makes it better.

His letter was emotional but he isn't making it into a huge matter so I don't think we should either, he isn't the first person to have an ill family/friend member and sure wont be the last but the way he has handled it in the background has been amazing.
Sure, it's admirable that he has been so strong. But, he's still done some awful things in there and the fact that his mum was ill doesn't make them alright or even justified.

GlitterEyes 29-07-2006 12:31 AM

Did I say it was? Lol...

All housemates at some point have been bitchy and not angels but that is just the way it goes.

Edwin 29-07-2006 12:33 AM

yes, but I still think he crossed the line, a line that could have easily remained un-crossed..
And what's even more annoying is the fact that people praise him for it, but if anyone else did it they'd be slated to the high heavens...

RAS 29-07-2006 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by Edwin
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Originally posted by GlitterEyes
It is only now that we knew about his mum, he has been getting more & more fans for weeks now. The fact she was/is ill/recovering will not have much of an effect as I think its a private matter and it is not like Rich has gone down the poor me route. He has stayed a VERY strong character with all that in the background and sometimes that must be playing on his mind but it doesn't show. He is not going for sympathy or wanting it, he is being himself in the house and he shows and says what he feels and that is a big thing to admire.

If anything the letter had more of an effect on the other housemates likle Michael he felt really guilty because he was being off and set out to get him since he went in not knowing about his mother. The fact even the press and papers were unaware of this also makes it better.

His letter was emotional but he isn't making it into a huge matter so I don't think we should either, he isn't the first person to have an ill family/friend member and sure wont be the last but the way he has handled it in the background has been amazing.
Sure, it's admirable that he has been so strong. But, he's still done some awful things in there and the fact that his mum was ill doesn't make them alright or even justified.
lol, you making out like he's killed someone, apart form making bitchy comments i dont think he's done much else wrong.

I think the shabaz incident has been blown all out of proportion, if you are gonna call Richard a bully for that, you can call all teh otehr housemates bully's as well.

Edwin 29-07-2006 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by RAS
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Originally posted by Edwin
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Originally posted by GlitterEyes
It is only now that we knew about his mum, he has been getting more & more fans for weeks now. The fact she was/is ill/recovering will not have much of an effect as I think its a private matter and it is not like Rich has gone down the poor me route. He has stayed a VERY strong character with all that in the background and sometimes that must be playing on his mind but it doesn't show. He is not going for sympathy or wanting it, he is being himself in the house and he shows and says what he feels and that is a big thing to admire.

If anything the letter had more of an effect on the other housemates likle Michael he felt really guilty because he was being off and set out to get him since he went in not knowing about his mother. The fact even the press and papers were unaware of this also makes it better.

His letter was emotional but he isn't making it into a huge matter so I don't think we should either, he isn't the first person to have an ill family/friend member and sure wont be the last but the way he has handled it in the background has been amazing.
Sure, it's admirable that he has been so strong. But, he's still done some awful things in there and the fact that his mum was ill doesn't make them alright or even justified.
lol, you making out like he's killed someone, apart form making bitchy comments i dont think he's done much else wrong.

I think the shabaz incident has been blown all out of proportion, if you are going to call Richard a bully for that, you can call all teh otehr housemates bully's as well.
I called sezer a bully in that incident, and some others, don't remember their names, but they've all been evicted/walked now.

Poeticwhisper 29-07-2006 12:41 AM

Edwin,

Our mum is no longer ill and when Richard went into the house she was in the middle of her chemo treatments. At that point it was a waiting game and we felt that the house would be a good distraction for Richard.

Clare

RAS 29-07-2006 12:42 AM

I dont think anyone was a bully in that incident.

I just think Shabaz was a horrid man, they tryed to give him many chances, but the guy was just having none of it.

You could easily classify Shabaz as a bully, with his comments to Glyn about his weight all the time, making jokes about his weight, and saying he was going to carry on touching him, when Glyn politely asked him not to.

So the way teh word bully is beign brandished around so easily, there is more than enough reasons to call Shabaz a bully.

GabrielleisLove 29-07-2006 12:56 AM

Do I think it's sad and touching? Yes.
Do I think he deserves to be in the final? No.

This event made me like him, but it dosen't erase all of his behaviour prior to the letter.

RAS 29-07-2006 01:04 AM

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Originally posted by GabrielleisLove
Do I think it's sad and touching? Yes.
Do I think he deserves to be in the final? No.

This event made me like him, but it dosen't erase all of his behaviour prior to the letter.
Like what......

EmilyJ 29-07-2006 01:05 AM

Richard has put up with so much in that house. If some of the others had to handle the same amount of stress they would be flipping out. It must be doing his head in to keep being nominated. He hardly ever has down days and is always very supportive. Look at the way he went to Pete after the letters. Richard is a good bloke.

RAS 29-07-2006 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by EmilyJ
Richard has put up with so much in that house. If some of the others had to handle the same amount of stress they would be flipping out. It must be doing his head in to keep being nominated. He hardly ever has down days and is always very supportive. Look at the way he went to Pete after the letters. Richard is a good bloke.
Exactly,look at how some of the housemates have acted over such trivial things. We now know that Richard has had this in the back of his mind for the past 2 months, yet he's still stayed positive and enjoyed himself. Top bloke.

Edwin 29-07-2006 01:24 AM

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Originally posted by RAS
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Originally posted by GabrielleisLove
Do I think it's sad and touching? Yes.
Do I think he deserves to be in the final? No.

This event made me like him, but it dosen't erase all of his behaviour prior to the letter.
Like what......
Just being spiteful in general.

GlitterEyes 29-07-2006 01:31 AM

I think Rich has a few bad points but so does every housemate, his good entertaining points out weight his bad points by a mile.

Edwin 29-07-2006 01:33 AM

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Originally posted by GlitterEyes
I think Rich has a few bad points but so does every housemate, his good entertaining points out weight his bad points by a mile.
He does have bad points, yeah, but i don't think any of his good points outweigh this, because I haven't really liked him from the start anyway.

GlitterEyes 29-07-2006 01:39 AM

I think your quite different to the normal on housemate choice, most people are now warming to Richard and seeing his great qualities. If you have never liked him then I don't think you will in the last 3 weeks. Fair enough we all have our own opinions:spin2:

Edwin 29-07-2006 01:45 AM

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Originally posted by GlitterEyes
I think your quite different to the normal on housemate choice, most people are now warming to Richard and seeing his great qualities. If you have never liked him then I don't think you will in the last 3 weeks. Fair enough we all have our own opinions:spin2:
I don't mind him, it's just what everyone keeps saying to me about him that's making me frustrated.

GlitterEyes 29-07-2006 01:50 AM

Love him or hate him he is a great character to watch.:bigsmile:

Edwin 29-07-2006 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by GlitterEyes
Love him or hate him he is a great character to watch.:bigsmile:
He is.

But i'm sick of hearing all this "he's witty so he's allowed to be nasty" baloney.

GlitterEyes 29-07-2006 01:53 AM

It depends on who it is against, most housemates take it light heartedly but Ash is one who doesn't like with the curry comment.

Edwin 29-07-2006 02:17 AM

It's the fact that he does his jokes without any kind of tatfulness, he doesn't realise that it offends people and he probably doesn't care. I didn't like the way he publically humiliated michael in front of the whole group with a smug grin on his face. And then him and pete seemed to be so amused.

But then after all of that I hear people congratulating him for it, even if they are his fans, why is it so funny? I've heard people complain about others being bitchy and calling them all sorts, but because he's intelligent he just gets away with it. I'm just sick of all the constant justification, and frigidness when the fans are asked if they think it's wrong.

However, I do enjoy watching richard, as he has been a source of entertainment throughout his stay in the house. even though half of his jokes are about sex they can be funny. I wouldn't mind seeing him winning BB7, but I wouldn't mind any housemate winning it this year, i'm not too concerned as it's their life. This is probably the opposite of what I was saying a few days ago, but i've just reached a conclusion..

anyway i'll shut up for now :laugh:

abs 29-07-2006 11:20 AM

it was nice that richard got the letter, but the way pete carried himself afterwards proved that he is selfish. fair enuff, everyone would have liked a letter, but after hearing richards letter pete could have been a bit more sympathetic towards richard but instead it was richard hugging pete!?!? if pete is REALLY unhappy way wont the HMs nominate him & then the public can vote him out?! but i suppose pete could have drama's outside the house aswell but he really isnt coping in the house where as richard is more mature & has composer. oh, & i bet mikey will still nominate richard come monday (just thought i would throw that 1 in...)!!!


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