Do you not understand how none of this helped him as he lost 6-1? The Ian Terrys (begrudgingly) and Natalie Whites of the world will always trump the Dan Gheeslings and the Russell Hantzes and it's not out of any coincidence or flaws in the game.

No, that would be Raph who for whatever reason I believe bought TWO copies of Dan's book? Money well spent towards Dan desperately famewhoring himself and trying to stay relevant, I suppose.

Dan is the 2nd greatest player ever but he is no Dr. Will, so people should stop obsessing over him

I think we both know the question to that one

Dan is the probably one of the nicest people to ever play the game so you are talking rubbish once again

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No need to get all butthurt just because you're in love with Dan and some of us aren't.
We're all allowed an opinion. I think Dan's a heinous little prick wheras every time you see him you see swallows and lovehearts encircling his head. Differing opinions on him that's all!

Nah, I'm not really that big of a Dan fan, his personality somewhat bores me, but he plays the game like it should be played and I respect that.

So why is he really going into the house if he's not gonna actually get to evict someone? Just for entertainment purposes?

And as for the Dan hate/love debate going on... I loved Dan on Season 10, he was brilliant, and his relationship with renny was fun to watch. I was not a fan of him on Season 14 though. I found him annoying and too cocky.

they're trying to see how many ****ty ideas they can do in one season

Should have returned in 13 instead of ghastly Jeff and Jordan

Will is more entertaining, but he isn't better. Dan is the better all-around player.

They were asked back, but Dan was getting married.

Dan's game is based on people not realizing what he is doing, while Will's is out in the open.

Will beats Dan in every single category besides competitions. He is more likeable to the people in the house, he's better at strategy, he can lie better, etc.

LJ I have to apologise about the previous Lawon dislike, I rewatched 13 recently and vastly appreciated his complete *wtfhandsomefiedness*.

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I have Aspergers, what the **** are you trying to say you little toe rag?!

You are correct, Russell Hantz is the greatest Survivor player of all time

Like I said earlier, I'm trying to say that losing 6-1 in a social game to someone who suffers in social settings is pretty hard to do. But Dan the GOAT or whatever the **** somehow managed to do it.

Ian does NOT have Aspergers. He's just a nerd.

It's really annoying that everyone who's a bit nerdy and eccentric is now considered to have Aspergers syndrome or must be "mildly autistic" this whole Autism thing has gotten out of control.

It reminds me of back in the 90's when everyone who was a bit hyper or had any trouble with school work was all of a sudden called ADHD.

Then why did you call him a '******' in another thread?

It's not about him being nerdy and eccentric, but it's his complete lack of social skills. The extreme pacing back and forth on eviction nights and the constant rocking back and forth are pretty common examples of stimming. He also had no clue when enough was enough (ie kicking himself in the head as a party trick, constantly droning on to Dan about Pokemon and other ****, etc.)

Because he's delusional as **** and acted like he was some mastermind who was one of the best players ever. At least I heard that now he admits that his win was completely situational so that's a step in the right direction.

Dan is a better strategist. That's not even debatable man. Both are great manipulators, but I would probably give the edge to Will there. Everyone liked Dan in BB10. Its only after he screwed them over they hated him. EVERYONE in BB2 hated Will except for chilltown. Will wasn't liked at all.


@troynuncdicit you still didn't answer my question. Who do you think is the best BB player? Where do you rank Dan among the greats?

I don't have a running ranking of who I think the best players are because who cares about gameplay anyways? All I'm saying is that the greatest of all time losing a jury vote 6-1 (with the 1 vote being immediately regretted after the fact) is hilariously contradictory.

Dan won season 10 because he had a good alliance with Renny, Keasha and a better one with Memphis. He was respected by the jury for playing a good game so was rewarded the win, BUT it also helped he had Memphis who he manipulated to be not well liked by the jury in the end.

In season 14 he lost because he played a dirty game, Yes he made a great comeback to make the final 2, however he pissed the people of by promising them he would take them to final 4/3/2 then voting them out. I mean look at the jury votes; Frank and Shane were both backstabbed by him so he was never getting their votes. Ashley and Britney both had better relationships with Ian so Dan had no shot in winning. He didnt have a scapegoat like he had with Memphis, this time he was up against someone respected and liked by the jury, if anything Dan was Ian's Memphis.