I still cannot see Labour losing the election now, they may miss out just on an overall majority but not lose it. I expect at the very least a Labour/Lib Dem coalition.
The Conservatives will never get an agreement with the Lib Dems with the EU issue in the future in my view.

I also cannot see Labour replacing Ed Miliband either although you Omah could have a point.
I wouldn't completely rule that out simply because a new leader could more credibly come in and be in favour of a referendum too.

UK and the EU: Better off out or in?
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20448450

Food for thought ..... :idc:

Clegg will be replaced, too ..... ;)

It will be a completely new ball game, with UKIP being the only major political party to retain their current leader ..... :eureka:

no doubt about that, he was caught between a rock and a hard place cosying up to the tories. Really looking forward to his autobiography, it may explain why he made some of the catastrophic decisions he did.
A libdem/ conservative alliance was never going to be easy. I would love to see more of Ed, I think an intellectual running the country would be beneficial.
Farage is a joke, he has no depth to his reasonings.

Similar to the state of play at the top of the Premier League with only Arsenal keeping the same Manager (Man Utd,Man City & Chelsea all changing their's)

An excellent analogy .... :thumbs:

I think if it was Boris..the tories might actually stand a chance. He seems quite popular..even I cant help myself liking him sometimes :laugh:

I'm not sold on the idea of Boris Johnson becoming leader of the Conservative Party and thus a possible future Prime Minister. Whilst I agree he is likeable,lovable and straight talking..........I question whether he has the statesman like qualities needed to lead at the highest levels. He also has the abilty to make gaffes and can appear quite bumbling at times.

Not sure he would be taken seriously on the World stage....!!!!

Has anyone read the views and opinions of 'fluffy' boris?....wolf in sheeps clothing that one!

I am not a fan of Boris at all.

Boris is a great speaker but his politics are frightening. I'd rather have Dave over him

David Cameron losing control of party on Europe, says Lord Howe
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22585228

RBTL. David's days are numbered ..... ;)

Well it was really Geoffrey Howe that made the main speech that led to Mrs Thatcher's downfall, who knows now.

I mostly agree with him, I support being in Europe, if there was a fair and balanced debate on Europe then possibly I would be in favour of a referendum.
We will not however get that from the media at all overall.
I fear more people will be even more confused as to the EU after such a debate than they were likely before.

I know a lot of people who would prefer to stay in the EU, however few of them would bother to go out and vote in a referendum and especially if it was held way after a General election, the turnout would be really likely poor overall anyway.
The people I know who are against being the EU, they would go out in hail rain or snow to cast their votes so determined are they to that cause.

It could well be that even after a long debate as to Europe, what happens is more would possibly prefer to remain in the EU but would just sit back and not vote in a very badly timed referendum,which could see up sleepwalk out of Europe as those against it likely near all cast their votes..

That is what is dangerous as to this whole idea of David Cameron's and as Lord Howe says, it could have dire consequences for the UK overall.

The thatcherites are massing.... Let them all defect to UKIP with the rest of the blinkered pompous xenophobes. Did anyone see farage in Scotland? faced with a handful of protesters he came apart at the seams and refused an interview! Spineless and incompetent.

Another Tory schism is in the offing ..... :evilgrin:

Redwood: Europe relationship 'wrong' for Britain
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22585916# (video)

Rubbish
Life goes on


This Week he is in Europe


Swizel- Eyed Loons can relax


Life In The Fast Lane

Yes that was Amazing
Lucky Police Protected him

Knew that it was all based on trade, they want to barter with tyrants like maggie did.

Europe: Conservatives are united, says Jeremy Hunt
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22586142

Fine words from "Mr Incompetunt" but they butter no parsnips ..... :laugh2:

The scary part is people dont take the time to look beyond his buffoon act they would vote for him because he is wacky when the truth he is a manipulative nasty piece of work. But he is wacky yay! that really is a worry i despair sometimes.

If he became leader his court jester act would go on while the torys continued to suck the last few drops of blood out of Britain.

I think he is a dangerous PM, playing with so many issues that are really important and need careful thought and more to the point cross party consensus preferably really.

He just dives in with what the thinks seems a popular measure then makes a massive mess of presentation and then the whole run through as to it too.
He allows rumour to run rife for ages before trying to clamp down on things and seem to gather any sort of control as to events.
He had this chaos with the NHS reforms too.

Now he is allowing his MPs to talk about some arrangement or joint standing in the 2015 election with UKIP.
It is getting really ridiculous.

I hope he and the Conservatives stay where they are in the polls because, (I doubt it very much but cannot rule out),just maybe the Scots so fed up of being ignored on major issues,may feel rather than risk another Conservative Govt literally dictating to them, a Conservative Govt too possibly leading to a sleepwalk out of the EU that they may well come to think 'independence' is the better option.

This PM is walking a dangerous path on 2 major issues, he could lead us,( and he excludes the Welsh too, hardly anyone talks of Wales in Conservative circles as to the EU issue), to the break up of the UK as we know it and also out on a limb from the EU too.
All this on an issue he has no intention of doing anything at all about for at least 2 years, which will also be dependent on him getting an overall majority in 2015, something he failed terribly to do in 2010,with no final resolution for at least 4 to 5 years as to it from now either.

What shortsightedness and not only pathetically poor leadership of his party but of the entire UK as well.