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Iceman 02-06-2013 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 6029514)
Silly bitch, give it a year or less and she'll be doing the lowest rung of the Reality TV ladder.

Celeb BB:amazed:

Ryan57 02-06-2013 09:04 PM

oh man. i iz totally lyk gutted at dis. she be a total role model 2 peeps lyk me. her and dappy. stil luv u tulisa. stil da queen of music for me. kthxbai.

james130 02-06-2013 09:18 PM

Never thought i'd say this, but after watching the video, I kinda feel sorry for her.
She clearly thought this 'journalist' was a friend to her and trusted him if she was texting him and stuff. He must've spent a long time gaining her trust, just so he could break the story.
Incredibly foolish of her though.
Surely it's entrapment, no?

Omah 02-06-2013 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by james130 (Post 6030058)
Never thought i'd say this, but after watching the video, I kinda feel sorry for her.
She clearly thought this 'journalist' was a friend to her and trusted him if she was texting him and stuff. He must've spent a long time gaining her trust, just so he could break the story.
Incredibly foolish of her though.
Surely it's entrapment, no?

Surely not ..... :nono:

She's obviously an immature gob****e who wanted to show off to strangers and never thought of the consequences, i.e. that her public charade would be exposed ..... :pipe:

Ryan57 02-06-2013 09:34 PM

I'd be pretty scared if I was the guy who was filming that big drug dealer. He'd absolutely kick the fat guy s h i t less.

Benjamin 02-06-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc (Post 6029517)
She's let her little chavvy fans down :(

She has let me down. I'm so angry right now I might stab an old lady and get a couple of asbo's.

Ryan57 02-06-2013 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben (Post 6030144)
She has let me down. I'm so angry right now I might stab an old lady and get a couple of asbo's.

http://www.motoring.co.uk/images/habits/chavs.jpg

Join me.

Z 03-06-2013 08:53 PM

Maybe she can turn this around and play up to her 'street' image she's been so desperate to keep a hold of. She was in this weird limbo between that and being on one of the biggest and campest TV shows in the country. You can't pretend to be cool and edgy if you're judging Rylan Clark every Saturday with Louis Walsh on your right for a few months. That's why Cheryl was perfect for the job, because Girls Aloud had built a career on being camp, that was their thing. Tulisa was playing against type. So maybe, just maybe, this scandal will do her career some good. I think she ought to go back to N-Dubz and maybe they can take the band further than they did before, with Tulisa's gained exposure and Dappy's relative solo success.

I feel sorry for her but I also think she's very stupid. She's a celebrity, she should know better than to reveal potentially damaging secrets to Joe Public. I don't know how this reporter got his information, perhaps he was befriending her for a while, but she should know to keep her party drug celebrity lifestyle strictly to celebrity friends, people who have as much at stake as her if they revealed she had drug connections.

Iceman 03-06-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6031600)
Maybe she can turn this around and play up to her 'street' image she's been so desperate to keep a hold of. She was in this weird limbo between that and being on one of the biggest and campest TV shows in the country. You can't pretend to be cool and edgy if you're judging Rylan Clark every Saturday with Louis Walsh on your right for a few months. That's why Cheryl was perfect for the job, because Girls Aloud had built a career on being camp, that was their thing. Tulisa was playing against type. So maybe, just maybe, this scandal will do her career some good. I think she ought to go back to N-Dubz and maybe they can take the band further than they did before, with Tulisa's gained exposure and Dappy's relative solo success.

I feel sorry for her but I also think she's very stupid. She's a celebrity, she should know better than to reveal potentially damaging secrets to Joe Public. I don't know how this reporter got his information, perhaps he was befriending her for a while, but she should know to keep her party drug celebrity lifestyle strictly to celebrity friends, people who have as much at stake as her if they revealed she had drug connections.

Do a cocaine kate job....it's quite easy...keep quiet for a few months and then do something unexpected........

Kizzy 03-06-2013 11:01 PM

Why are we not all screaming entrapment?.....:joker:

Marsh. 03-06-2013 11:09 PM

Is entrapment illegal? I know that might go in Tulisa's favour that she was tricked, but could the investigator be prosecuted?

Anyway, I can't believe people are saying they have sympathy for her. Just a scummy chav that girl.

Kizzy 03-06-2013 11:14 PM

Nah, she was daft must have been a long job getting to know her enough to get this literary gold, bit of a non story really.
Still can't quite understand why people dislike her so much :conf:

Omah 03-06-2013 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 6031759)
Is entrapment illegal? I know that might go in Tulisa's favour that she was tricked, but could the investigator be prosecuted?

Anyway, I can't believe people are saying they have sympathy for her. Just a scummy chav that girl.

The law regarding entrapment

http://www.lawgazette.co.uk/in-pract...ing-entrapment

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It is established case law that, while offering significant mitigation at sentence, there is no defence of entrapment in English law (R v Sang [1980] AC 402). However, it is also considered to be an abuse of court process for agents of the state to lure citizens into committing illegal acts and then seek to prosecute them for doing so. State-created entrapment of this sort will result in a stay of proceedings.

At present, the law regarding private entrapment appears to remain as Lord Fraser described it in Sang, ‘when Eve, taxed with having eaten the forbidden fruit, replied “the serpent beguiled me”, her excuse was, at most, a plea in mitigation and not a complete defence’.

Marsh. 03-06-2013 11:17 PM

Sooooo.... it's not really illegal but it also means entrapment can't provide evidence to prosecute with. So basically she's been exposed and nothing can be done about it. Typical.

Jack_ 03-06-2013 11:20 PM

Am I the only one that just...doesn't give a ******? Can't understand why anyone else would either...

Ramsay 03-06-2013 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6031785)
Am I the only one that just...doesn't give a ******? Can't understand why anyone else would either...

Truth

Marsh. 03-06-2013 11:25 PM

Only just watched the video. :joker:

"...like in my ghetto ghetto days...." What a knobhead.

Omah 03-06-2013 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 6031789)
Only just watched the video. :joker:

"...like in my ghetto ghetto days...." What a knobhead.

:joker:

Kizzy 03-06-2013 11:31 PM

It was never done to get her arrested, just to make more people dislike her than already do... Shame really how they would waste so much time and money to do that :idc:
She must be on some sycos hit list...

Iceman 03-06-2013 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6031738)
Why are we not all screaming entrapment?.....:joker:

According to DS (yes I know it's DS and they're full of bull), entrapment isn't illegal....that's why....

I don't see how though... (not sticking up for her just find the whole entrapment thing very shady)

Marsh. 03-06-2013 11:37 PM

No, I didn't mean they did it to get her arrested, I know they did it simply to bring her down as they always do. Just pointing out, legally it looks as though evidence obtained through entrapment wouldn't be enough.

King Gizzard 03-06-2013 11:39 PM

Stings are never fair, what's to say she'd have ever done it if it wasn't for the sting?

King Gizzard 03-06-2013 11:40 PM

(Not that I like her, I don't)

Kizzy 03-06-2013 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 6031805)
According to DS (yes I know it's DS and they're full of bull), entrapment isn't illegal....that's why....

I don't see how though... (not sticking up for her just find the whole entrapment thing very shady)

I was joking hence the joker, entrapment has come up a few times in serious debates today... See how observant you are? haha!

Omah 03-06-2013 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 6031781)
Sooooo.... it's not really illegal but it also means entrapment can't provide evidence to prosecute with.

No, the evidence may be permitted:

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The problem for defendants in private entrapment cases is that, unless there is some kind of criticism to be levelled specifically at the police or the Crown Prosecution Service relating to how the evidence was obtained, then any argument regarding exclusion of evidence or an abuse of process is likely to fail.


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