Originally Posted by Daffodil (Post 6224237)

Jegmeister, I agree with absolutely everything you have said. If there is the slightest hint of criticism of Hazel's behaviour (or life), she makes it into a camera-hogging major issue. Charlie is just very naive, like an untrained puppy, hence backalong, her immediate conclusion that Hazel's ex may have committed suicide because they broke up. Charlie also probably thought that it was a sort of compliment to Hazel that anyone should feel so deeply about her. But Hazel made it into an issue. And then had the nerve to summon Charlie (while she sat next to Dan) for a 'forgiving' hug when she had exhausted all avenues of attention over the incident. Cucumbergate is the same. If we haven't seen a hug yet, we will but it will be after this incident has given Hazel major air time.
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Originally Posted by Seanbon (Post 6224295)

No matter how dim Charlie is,I don't think anyone would consider it a compliment that someone committed suicide because of them!!:conf:

Originally Posted by jegmeister (Post 6222943)

I hadn't seen any of so-called "cucumbergate" and so was interested to see what happened.

From listening to some people on this Forum, I was expecting a drunken, shouting Charlie to be haranguing Hazel and to have clearly used the Daley situation as a way of showing up Hazel.

But what did we see? A slightly but not really that drunk Charlie make a stupid comment about Daley that she quickly retracted but which Hazel (being the clever and nasty piece of work she is) would not let go. Charlie kept saying she was sorry and retracting it, Hazel kept going on and on and on about it.

Then we hear from Hazel that she did not use the word aggressive when we clearly all heard she did - as Callum correctly confirmed. Now this may seem a storm in a teacup and in fact that is what it should have been.

Instead, Hazel had manipulated a situation to make it about something it wasn't - Daley. If Hazel had not commented at all on that Charlie tongue slip, there would have been no argument, no drama, in fact it would probably not have made the highlights and been forgotten. But by making such an issue of it, Hazel has cleverly turned it into something else - an issue of trust about Charlie, yet again throwing the spotlight away from the elephant in the room. The fact that she has still not properly told the remaining HMs what actually happened with Daley.

One thing is clear - we saw it with Dexter and the vanilla comment and with Callum when he queried her behaviour with Daley. Hazel does not like even the slightest hint of criticism of her behaviour and will become very passive aggressive, staring in a initimidating way at her target.

She is a nasty nasty woman.You have to be quite nasty in dealing with her when she adopts this attitude - give her a few stares back and repeating again and again that she is wrong.

And unfortunately it looks as if the Twitter/Facebook crowd have fallen for her victim approach over this incident when she is in my opinion far from it. Very disappointing.

Originally Posted by RodHull (Post 6223271)

What the same Callum who about 10 minutes earlier swore blind he never agreed with Hazel when she said Charlie was being aggressive (he did btw) :spin:

The whole thing was ridiculous to start with, Callum in full on guru nanak mode attempting to usurp Dans role as chief Hazel shoulder to cry on pumped her for info when she came out of the diary room. When Hazel calmly explained what happened (that she got a little aggressive, which she did, she became a belligerent drunk as usual) he agreed, and it was THIS that set Charlie off.

Then she brought up Daley, saying 'this is probably how Daley felt' thus suggesting that she clearly feels Hazel somehow stitched Daley up over nothing. Cause thats how she felt and she was about to relate her situation to his. She ONLY retracted it cause she saw their reaction and realised it would cause s**t, you dont have thoughts then speak them aloud unless you think them and believe them. Not unless your a toddler which she is not.

Charlie is a total tit and has done this throughout her time in there. That said none of the 3 involved covered themselves in glory during the aftermath as they all lied repeatedly about what they actually said.

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6223009)

Charlie went on for about an hour and a half. Would not let it drop at all.

Originally Posted by Daffodil (Post 6224237)

Jegmeister, I agree with absolutely everything you have said. If there is the slightest hint of criticism of Hazel's behaviour (or life), she makes it into a camera-hogging major issue. Charlie is just very naive, like an untrained puppy, hence backalong, her immediate conclusion that Hazel's ex may have committed suicide because they broke up. Charlie also probably thought that it was a sort of compliment to Hazel that anyone should feel so deeply about her. But Hazel made it into an issue. And then had the nerve to summon Charlie (while she sat next to Dan) for a 'forgiving' hug when she had exhausted all avenues of attention over the incident. Cucumbergate is the same. If we haven't seen a hug yet, we will but it will be after this incident has given Hazel major air time.
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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 6224972)

Hazel needs to be adored by men and she has Callum in her sights. Getting Charlie out clears that path. She will throw anyone under a bus to get her goal.

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6224981)

hazel is a robot woman from stepford wives....devoid of any humanity

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6225005)

Is that why people are devoid of any sympathy for hazel, because they justify what they say about her by dehumanising her?......