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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6264962)

So long as its not Gina I genuinely don't care. I will be appalled if Gina wins. The general public quite often make me fear for the state of humanity

I sympathise with your view.

But with all due respect do you ever wonder if you're in the wrong place ?

I'm afraid you're unlikely to ever find a heart of gold in there with a personailty any more interesting than a small insect.

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Originally Posted by the_answers (Post 6265019)

I'd be ok with literally anyone else winning, and i find some of them personally unbearable. I've disliked some winners in the past but again, personally. Gina though... What she represents, is just awful. that people would make her their winner is depressing.

Certainly see your point.
As I've said I'm willing to forgive IF I see changed behaviour or some small amount of remorse is shown.

tbh I do think a lot of it isn't actually HER being herself and she's just playing to the gallery or what people want her to be like.
She can hear the boos each week and she probably thinks the public adore her and just want more.

Unfortunately in Hazel's case (or at least on the forums again), she's wrong.

And Not helped by her boyfriend adding fuel to the fire either.
Though as I've said elsewhere, I do wonder if "Stay away from Hazel" was actually code for "Shut up constantly having a go at Hazel all the time !"

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Originally Posted by the_answers (Post 6264895)

"scum" is a bit strong ?

We all like to like but the day it becomes a "nicest person in the house" competition is the moment I know it's time for me to contact one of my long lost friends.

it's happened twice already with Rachel Rice and Cameron though and could happen again.

You're right.

Just think people should bear in mind the boring buggers existence is only made possible by the entertaining ones.
Without them there wouldn't be any show at all.
Just personally, that's gonna sway my vote.

Why should Dexter and Gina provide all the entertainment only for Sam to sod off with all the money at the end ?

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Originally Posted by the_answers (Post 6265223)

You're right.

Just think people should bear in mind the boring buggers existence is only made possible by the entertaining ones.
Without them there wouldn't be any show at all.
Just personally, that's gonna sway my vote.

Why should Dexter and Gina provide all the entertainment only for Sam to sod off with all the money at the end ?

I'm with you on this one. I too believe the entertainers should win.

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Originally Posted by the_answers (Post 6264900)

Could do.
But you wonder if there's gonna be too many unwilling to forgive her for the Daley "non-incident" of passion.

If she can survive tonight it could well happen though !

She'll be a very strong contender for the win if she does make it through tonight.

There are more people that hate Gina now more than hate Hazel for something that happened weeks ago.

Dexter has become an absolute bore-fest the last week. He's laying low and avoiding bad situations but this will backfire on him. Unless he perks up and starts playing the game again after tonight, I can see him losing a lot of support. And if Hazel stays, he will be ****ed as he sided with the wrong crowd.

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Originally Posted by xPinkpegasusx (Post 6264638)

I don't think I bloody care who wins at this point.
Is anybody else feeling the same?

Only a few days ago I didn't mind who won as long as it definitely was not Sam or Sophie. I still think these two were far too boring for majority of the series to be worthy winners and Sophie has been downright nasty a few times too but it's mostly because she was behaving like a cowardly sheep. She seems less annoying when she talks about her family because she just lights up when she mentions them which I guess is a nicer side to her.
Sam has found his voice now though by standing up for himself, and he also was very kind to Charlie when she was upset, but I'm not too sure if it's too little too late.

I've always found Gina entertaining and yes I do actually believe she has shown kindness at times in the house and also been loyal to people that others didn't like. She definitely does have a mean streak to her though and can take things too far. Through no fault of her own she has been shown favouritism by Big Brother and been allowed too much power and information. I think it has all gone to her head and made her even meaner towards Hazel. Her cockiness is putting me off her.

Hazel has been on the one hand a very cold,hard, somewhat selfish and difficult to warm to housemate. On the other hand this could be seen as very strong, independent, and resilient. In fact resilient is how I think I would describe her in one word. She is no saint either regarding the Gina feud. We have heard from Charlie that Hazel constantly bitches about Gina too but for some reason we only get shown Gina bitching -maybe BB think she is more amusing in her exaggerated mannerisms?
I do feel Hazel lied/twisted a few things in the Charlie argument, but then again I think they were all in the wrong in some way that night. I do feel sympathy for her for the way she does seem to keep getting targeted in tasks by BB. Doesn't seem fair.

Dexter I went off when he was licking Jackie Travers and the gangs arses and when he started rows with Callum, and a fake romantic interest in Charlie.
However I have being warming to him again lately. I would not trust anything the guy says at all, but I at least find him amusing and also interesting to listen to now that he is not having stupid self analysing conversations anymore. He was also kind to Charlie when everyone else was bitching about her.

The twins - I don't really have anything to say about them. Don't hate them. Don't really like them either. They're so-so I guess.

Charlie - Seems sweet at times, makes me want to pull my hair out at other times and can be very frustrating to listen to. I don't know if she is really stupid and innocent or one of the greatest gameplayers the house has seen.

There's nobody left who I really really really want to win.
Anybody else feel similar?

I feel this series has fell flat on its face,not bothered whether I watch it or not,I am so uninterested in it,having said that from what I have seen,I would like Sam to win as imo he is the only honest decent one left in there.:hugesmile:

Remember it's secrets and lies, whoever wins will be told their is no money. lolol

Sam will be the worst winner of the show and I'd rather he didn't win, but I'll quickly get over it I guess.

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Originally Posted by the_answers (Post 6265113)

You're probably right as that's quite often the case - people play up to a crowd for popularity, be it on tv or just in a schoolyard, and are quite different one-on-one when theyre not trying to impress anyone. Even people who are friends in private, but will turn against each other in a group for the benefit of people watching, is classic "school yard" stuff. An obvious example would be that many siblings who get on well and are friends at home, the older sibling will still "pick on" the younger one if they cross paths at school, to impress their friends.

One on one Gina is perfectly capable of being nicer and doesn't seem like a completely horrible person, but she does go against people purely because she thinks it's the popular opinion. Which is in itself a very unpleasant trait. And exactly why her winning would be appalling... It encourages that sort of "playing up to a crowd" and "nastiness to impress". She is basically a real-life troll.

I essentially don't care all that much who wins any BB series.

As long as the overall series is entertaining for 10 weeks is the most important thing.

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6265618)

One on one Gina is perfectly capable of being nicer and doesn't seem like a completely horrible person, but she does go against people purely because she thinks it's the popular opinion. Which is in itself a very unpleasant trait.

And exactly why her winning would be appalling... It encourages that sort of "playing up to a crowd" and "nastiness to impress". She is basically a real-life troll.

Well I agree with you.

But should we blame Gina or the show ?
And is it "real life" ?

Gina is unlikeable but how much of it is real remains very questionable.

Like it or not I'm sure she knows she's playing the snob, the queen, the bitch, the villain and she's blatantly not holding back by pushing it to the limit. (seen most in the tasks)

Like it or not to her credit, at least she's willing to play this controversial "role" instead of sitting on the sidelines.
For that she deserve some respect for being willing to stick her neck out.

Reality TV looks real so we treat it like it's real.
In the heat of the moment we all make quickfire judgements like "poor Charlie is being ganged up on".
But then we step back and see it differently when the dust has settled when we remember it's also a (slightly sick !) game-show.

Same thing for Gina I say.
She's been a panto horse for the cameras from day 1.
While I don't condone some of the behaviour, seems to me that's the role she's chosen.

What's more worrying for me is how some of her followers (i.e. Charlie, Sophie) just follow her blindly, simply because she's queen bee.
Sure Dexter knows the score !
But the others appear unable to question any of it.

It's all so easy to get sucked in.

I just wish people would remember it's a gameshow and not real life before they throw people to the wolves. (BB included !)

In fact if Gina falls like a stack of cards, it will be partly BB own fault.

If they whip up a frenzy then they shouldn't be suprised about dealing with the consequences if the script doesn't go according to plan.

For all her faults, I'm even starting to feel a little sorry for her already...

Reality TV - how real is it ?