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Antibinary 16-08-2013 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 6292324)
He really was, because then he could see what the others had taken and he could be assured of taking the lowest amount.
Sam was at a disadvantage going first obviously. It's as clear as day.

The numbers were random. He had no idea what the others had taken.

jet 16-08-2013 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Antibinary (Post 6292318)
As said before on here, again, Dexter wasn't lying. When he said he looked at the board to make a decision, and everyone said 'why didn't you choose 99,000 then' he clearly stated all he saw (as in all that was important to him in his eyes) was 4s and 8s. He scoured the board for those numbers. Not any others. It's possible to miss certain numbers when you're not actually looking for them...

And before anyone says that's a convenient lie, he was looking at 4s and 8s because it's his hardwired gambling mentality to go for superstition and lucky numbers. Hence going for 88,800, 8 is considered to be lucky to the Chinese. People are so determined to hate Dexter they just jump to unsubstantiated conjecture. As another comment had said before, you'd have to be a gambler to understand.

Are you really serious? :joker:

Antibinary 16-08-2013 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 6292329)
Are you really serious? :joker:

Makes a lot more sense that your spurious hatespeech.
He's an ex-gambler. He said he was going for those numbers. He went for those numbers. I don't see how you can't see this when it was presented to you.

jet 16-08-2013 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Antibinary (Post 6292327)
The numbers were random. He had no idea what the others had taken.

He did. The amounts taken were gone. Again, he just had to look for the highest amount (100k) and go for the next highest amount NOT taken - 99k.

jet 16-08-2013 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Antibinary (Post 6292333)
Makes a lot more sense that your spurious hatespeech.
He's an ex-gambler. He said he was going for those numbers. He went for those numbers. I don't see how you can't see this when it was presented to you.

It makes no sense that he would do that. None.
I don't hate Dexter. He's a contestant in a gameshow and my hobby is commenting on what I see in that gameshow.

Antibinary 16-08-2013 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 6292334)
He did. The amounts taken were gone. Again, he just had to look for the highest amount (100k) and go for the next highest amount NOT taken - 99k.

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 6292348)
It makes no sense that he would do that. None.
I don't hate Dexter. He's a contestant in a gameshow and my hobby is commenting on what I see in that gameshow.

Those two amounts could have been anything. 100k I grant you would have been likely to have been there and subsequently taken, but he couldn't be 100% sure. He wasn't in there before to see the numbers before they were blanked out to him.

BUT that's not the point. He suspected a twist and in the knowledge of that, chose what he considered his lucky number out of a pool of lucky numbers - consisting of 4s and 8s - and hoped that by choosing something superstitiously lucky he would end up in a good spot. It paid off. He's a clever man and he must have realised that since this is Secrets and Lies, that there's a chance this task was bogus, and again, with that knowledge, relied on luck to see him through. That's the point. Be as nihilist as you want, but that's what he said, didn't lie about, and has been consistent about.

Kizzy 16-08-2013 01:21 AM

I saw lots of 4's... £ 4'000, 14'000, £44'000...... he didn't like them 4's?

Kaitel 16-08-2013 01:21 AM

Is it unfeasible that in a series of Secrets and Lies, that the BB team would go in and add/remove certain amounts from the board to confuse the pickers between each person? No, it's very likely in fact, so all this talk about see what has been taken means nothing. Just because they didn't, doesn't mean it wasn't possible and in Dexter's mind.

Antibinary 16-08-2013 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6292352)
I saw lots of 4's... £ 4'000, 14'000, £44'000...... he didn't like them 4's?

Your point is?

jet 16-08-2013 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Antibinary (Post 6292351)
Those two amounts could have been anything. 100k I grant you would have been likely to have been there and subsequently taken, but he couldn't be 100% sure. He wasn't in there before to see the numbers before they were blanked out to him.

BUT that's not the point. He suspected a twist and in the knowledge of that, chose what he considered his lucky number out of a pool of lucky numbers - consisting of 4s and 8s - and hoped that by choosing something superstitiously lucky he would end up in a good spot. It paid off. He's a clever man and he must have realised that since this is Secrets and Lies, that there's a chance this task was bogus, and again, with that knowledge, relied on luck to see him through. That's the point. Be as nihilist as you want, but that's what he said, didn't lie about, and has been consistent about.

It doesn't matter what numbers were blanked out, the highest was still 99k and there were still other 90k numbers on the board.
And what he said was that he didn't see the 99k. In fact, he gave 3 different explanations, one after the other. I'm sure we'll get a video and you can refresh your memory. Then he ended by saying he thought someone would be selfless enough to take £1 and go - not him of course - when everyone said they didn't WANT to go. He's a con man, pure and simple. :joker:

Tozzie 16-08-2013 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6292352)
I saw lots of 4's... £ 4'000, 14'000, £44'000...... he didn't like them 4's?

I found myself looking for the 8's because someone posted on here today that he took the 8s, I didn't see anything but the ruddy 8s. remind me not to look at TiBB until after I've watched BB first in future LOL

jet 16-08-2013 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaitel (Post 6292353)
Is it unfeasible that in a series of Secrets and Lies, that the BB team would go in and add/remove certain amounts from the board to confuse the pickers between each person? No, it's very likely in fact, so all this talk about see what has been taken means nothing. Just because they didn't, doesn't mean it wasn't possible and in Dexter's mind.

*sigh* even if they did, which they didn't - what has that got to do with Dexter not picking the highest available number?
Oh yes, he didn't see it! He didn't see all the other numbers in the 90ks either. :rolleyes:

Antibinary 16-08-2013 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 6292365)
It doesn't matter what numbers were blanked out, the highest was still 99k and there were still other 90k numbers on the board.
And what he said was that he didn't see the 99k. In fact, he gave 3 different explanations, one after the other. I'm sure we'll get a video and you can refresh your memory. Then he ended by saying he thought someone would be selfless enough to take £1 and go - not him of course - when everyone said they didn't WANT to go. He's a con man, pure and simple. :joker:

I saw all the videos so don't worry about me.

Yeah, he didn't see the 99k as an option. To him, it was irrelevant. It was never in his plan. Just because he mentioned the £1 thing doesn't undo his argument. All that does is bolden it. It's another variable. And with all these variables there is going to be little logic in deciphering exactly what BB is planning. So what else can he do but go on gut instinct? I.e. Pick his lucky numbers and hope for the best. He also admitted to not being selfless enough to go for the pound, if you were watching, and fair play to him for admitting it.

I would however have thought someone would have called BB's bluff on the solitary, lone £1 floating in a sea of 5-figure numbers and realised Big Brother wouldn't be callous enough to actually boot you out for choosing a quid. If anyone was pragmatic they'd realise picking the £1 would call the bluff, keep them in, and have the public think of them as selfless and worthy of winning for their charity. But anyway.

Kizzy 16-08-2013 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Antibinary (Post 6292360)
Your point is?

My point is if he likes 4's or 8's or whatever why did he not pick a low amount containing these numbers?

Knowing many gamblers fondness for those numbers being considered very lucky and the show being sponsored by supercasino......something fishy, very fishy.

jet 16-08-2013 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6292202)
It is really hard to argue against all that post Jet and for goodness sake if Charlie could find the £99,000 board then it is beyond all belief that Dexter didn't see it.
They were pretty easy boards to see.

That is really where his argument fell flat on his face but prepare yourself for the backlash,good luck.:hugesmile:

Yeah why do I bother? :hugesmile: People just won't see what they don't want to see.
Goodnight Joey and everyone. :hugesmile:

Withano 16-08-2013 01:43 AM

This is a very detailed post about exactly what happened. The twins aren't innocent either though.

I think everybody knows this is exactly what happened, its only Dexter fans that have either misunderstood the concept or are still in denial about the whole thing.

Antibinary 16-08-2013 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6292397)
My point is if he likes 4's or 8's or whatever why did he not pick a low amount containing these numbers?

Knowing many gamblers fondness for those numbers being considered very lucky and the show being sponsored by supercasino......something fishy, very fishy.

He just picked out of instinct. What can I say? Why didn't he pick 'x' amount? Because he didn't feel like it, because it didn't leap out at him as the number to bet on. I can't speak for his mind completely, especially if he ran up the debts he said, but it's just like picking lucky numbers at the lottery. You don't say 'why didn't you pick this number instead?' To them do you, because they obviously picked what came to mind best at the time.

Antibinary 16-08-2013 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 6292399)
Yeah why do I bother? :hugesmile: People just won't see what they don't want to see.
Goodnight Joey and everyone. :hugesmile:

It's possible he saw it. But even if he did, he didn't SEE it, as something to pick.
If you go in looking for 4s and 8s it seems a bit silly to actively hunt out something with 9s in.

CaPPa 16-08-2013 01:46 AM

He chose it because it is considered to be a lucky number to the Chinese. Therefore it was the highest available number that contained 8s.

It would have seemed strange to me but my wife predicted that he'd pick that amount due to it being lucky, so I believe it.

Withano 16-08-2013 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Antibinary (Post 6292333)
Makes a lot more sense that your spurious hatespeech.
He's an ex-gambler. He said he was going for those numbers. He went for those numbers. I don't see how you can't see this when it was presented to you.

Even an ex gambler will know the difference between absolute certainty (pick the highest number, Charlie HAS to choose lower) and a slim probability of lucky numbers.

Withano 16-08-2013 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CaPPa (Post 6292406)
He chose it because it is considered to be a lucky number to the Chinese. Therefore it was the highest available number that contained 8s.

It would have seemed strange to me but my wife predicted that he'd pick that amount due to it being lucky, so I believe it.

Thats a cover up and its ridiculous people bought it. He had the choice of absolute certainty of staying vs lucky numbers. How stupid do you think he is?

Antibinary 16-08-2013 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 6292409)
Thats a cover up and its ridiculous people bought it. He had the choice of absolute certainty of staying vs lucky numbers. How stupid do you think he is?

Again, as he isn't stupid he'd likely have sussed that something was amiss. Hence picking a lucky number because there's no real logic to it. If he picked a safe number he'd still be up for eviction, pick a low number and you might be evicted. With those odds, you'd want to be lucky.

AEC 16-08-2013 01:52 AM

I'd like dexter to win big brother!
 
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Originally Posted by Tozzie (Post 6292277)
I agree with this, as usual Dexter would have been damned if he did, damned if he didn't, its always been the same the whole way through the show so why should tonight have been any different.

I'D LIKE DEXTER TO WIN BIG BROTHER!

Dexter did say at the end of the latest show:"You can't do right for doing wrong in this house".

1.No one has mentioned,at least in the posts that I have read and seen,that when Dexter was trying to choose what amount of money to go for,he said ALOUD that wanted to pick an amount that represented good luck and increased his chances of staying in the house - hence he picked £88,800.

2.And since Dexter is partly of Chinese descent,he chose £88,800 for the following reasons:-
WIKIPEDIA:-In Chinese culture[edit source]

Further information: numbers in Chinese culture

Number 88 symbolizes fortune and good luck in Chinese culture, since the word 8 sounds similar to the word Fā (发, which implies 发财, or wealth, in Mandarin or Cantonese). The number 8 is considered to be the luckiest number in Chinese culture, and prices in Chinese supermarkets often contain many 8s. The shape of the Chinese character for 8 (八) implies that a person will have a great, wide future as the character starts narrow and gets wider toward the bottom. The Chinese government has been auctioning auto license plates containing many 8s for tens of thousands of dollars.

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2.With respect,Sam,although he is probably a nice guy more or less,is also crude at times and is currently behaving like a pillock towards Dexter,because he is jealous to death of Dexter being in the final.Plus the fact that he was fed anti-Dexter propaganda by that other pillock,his best friend in the BB house,Callum! Again,Callum is also probably a nice guy,but he was being overly-nice in Big Brother and came across as a creep.

3.The twins,Jack and Joe,are also jealous to death of Dexter,because Dexter is clever,smart,charismatic - and he's in the Big Brother final!.......provided that Big Brother doesn't change the plan with another twist and/or lie.......
Dexter did say in the latest programme that he is not 100% sure IF HE IS IN the Big Brother Final! Whats more,Jack and Joe asked Big Brother twice would they actually be getting the amount of money that they picked.

4.I've said it before,and I'll say it again,Dexter is a bit of a conman,but he is also a likeable rogue and probably a decent guy at heart,who is trying to better himself - people like Robin Hood,Ronnie Biggs,etc,are thought of as heroes and likeable rogues.It must be stressed that Dexter is not a criminal,he just using Big Brother to further his life for the better,he's a game player - many other housemates are too - all is fair in love and war,and Big Brother is a game show as well as a social experiment.And Sam probably is also a game player,who wants to win Big Brother and the £100,000 prize money!

5.Dexter has been the most interesting housemate in the Big Brother house,and he deserves to win the Big Brother show-programme!:hugesmile::dance::hugesmile::hugesmile:

AEC.

brianna_jones 16-08-2013 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 6292179)
Dexter has been caught out as a con man, which is no surprise really. It is as clear as day that Dexter wanted to take the money and run. I was able to see and assimilate all the numbers on the board quickly and I wasn't even in the room. They each had plenty of time to choose.
As each HM came into the room one by one, the amount they had chosen disappeared from the board. Sam chose 100k - it was blacked out. The twins would have seen the 100k was gone and they chose 96 something K. Which means they also were trying for the money if the 2 to come after them went higher. The amount they took was then blanked out. With me so far?

Dexter came next and although there was still 99k left, and 4 or 5 other amounts in the 90k range, he chose 88k. Now, if he had really wanted to stay, why didn't he chose the highest number still available? He said he didn't see the 99k, which of course he waffled around, but what about the other numbers in the 90k range? Didn't he see ANY of them?
Then he changes his story and says he thought someone would take a £1. Immediately you can see he regrets digging an even deeper hole for himself.

When the amounts are revealed, he acts as if he is upset. Then when BB says, 'However, Dexter will not receive the money' his eyes dart about in a panic. A few moments pass and he says' thank god'. Why would he say that if he thought he was going to be leaving with nothing? BB hadn't told him he was safe yet. Didn't he say he wanted to stay?

Then comes the relief when he finds out he is safe from eviction and the tears were a genuine reaction to that and not because he had to pick a HM to evict.

Well said! My hope now is being exposed as the sniveling lying nasty "scrotum" (as Iris astutely pointed out) will prevent him from winning.

Antibinary 16-08-2013 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by AEC (Post 6292413)
I'D LIKE DEXTER TO WIN BIG BROTHER!

Dexter did say at the end of the latest show:"You can't do right for doing wrong in this house".

1.No one has mentioned,at least in the posts that I have read and seen,that when Dexter was trying to choose what amount of money to go for,he said aloud that wanted to pick an amount that represented good luck and increased his chances of staying in the house - hence he picked £88,800.

AEC.

You must have missed my protests saying exactly this on this page and the last :P


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