Just be aware that Politicians will pretty much say anything that will get you to vote for them, whether they will actually do what they say is a very different thing.

Labour will win the next election purely because they are the lesser of two evils.

Maybe a video on the Guardian?

We can only go by what was said, and I can honestly say it was fair and rational.
I made a point at the end to a councillor about the possibility of converting my fire back to solid fuel, he asked if I had a partner and told me I didn't look old enough to have a child at uni. After giving me his card he said he would come round and check my flue.... so thats nice!... :joker:

Oh Kizzy,keep you hand on your flue,you know what these councillors are like:joker::joker: seriously though,glad you enjoyed it ,sounds interesting,just make sure your flue is clean:hugesmile:

She is a very genuine and good addition to the shadow Cabinet Kizzy, as you say she will, given the chance be a really good Minister too.

I find her really impressive and she has a heart too so compassion as to ideas and policy will hopefully be forthcoming.

Really glad you enjoyed it Kizzy, it must have been refreshing for you too to come across a politician with conviction that is based on understanding and fairness.

It was, I didn't even think they existed! she was nothing like I expected and was warm and easy to speak to, she shook my hand and thanked me for my contribution!
Keep your eye on the Guardian for a write up :D
I'm seriously considering getting involved at a local level, any advice? :laugh:

I Dug up a 2013 thread
for Rachels's August 2024 Frontpage



Sky News Text :
[Chancellor Rachel Reeves is considering
lifting the 13-year freeze on fuel duty
in her first budget this October,
the i weekend reports.]


https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/l...0ec1a4dc3.jpeg

I'd. ask her why she's robbing pensioners and if she thinks it's a good look.

I won't mind paying extra as to the fuel duty
Things are a lot better on that front from around 2 years ago as to cost.

However she's got I hope a massive fight looming at conference on her pensioner winter fuel payments.
I still hope she'll look at that again.

She's right to look for as much savings as possible but not as to pensioners.

The whole argument of it not being means tested and paid universally when it was first brought in.
Was the costs to instigate it as means tested would be huge.

She needs to think hard again.
Labour members are furious at that.

However yes for me to to ending or amending the fuel duty freeze.

It was interesting reading this old thread though.

Yes back 2013 Kizzy
was the wise poster

Yes it makes you wonder if
PM Starmer can win in 5 years?

Back in 2013
Nice post from Kizzy
after she met Rachel Reeves MP

or Rachel Thieves as we now call her

Yes there is a lot of anger now

That's a long way off politically.
A lot depending on other Parties attitudes too.

However I'm going to say yes we can.

Because he has an ace in the pack card in an emergency.
That is to adopt PR for future elections from 2034, If he now doesn't call an election for 5 years.

That could give him his 10 year plan for government.

Every single other Party would support him and Labour on PR.
Even Reform.
Only the Cons would be against.

The LlibDems, the Greens plus SNP and Plaid.
Would be looking to ensure the election win to get PR.

Farage said he was going to come for Labours votes.
He's now calling strongly for PR too.
So that could diffuse his negativity to Labour to get PR.
Because one thing is certain, the Cons and the Con membership would NEVER want PR in any shape or form.
The Cons would be firmly isolated out in the cold by ALL other Parties on the issue.

i don't recall a government dive bombing in popularity so quickly after an election

Valid Point

swith all the options open to them to raise funds, going to pensioners first was a shocking optic, I guess they expect many will be dead in 5 years?

:joker:

:joker: what a great read this thread is, thank you whoever bumped it

wise words from Verbal there

How can we vote for our local MP if seats will be allocated based on nationwide votes?

There are many forms of PR it will depend on what one was selected.
Obviously Labour would discuss with other Parties what PR system to use.

PR is used in the Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish assembly elections.
That works pretty well.

Nearly 40% who could vote in this election didn't.
Near 34% didn't vote in the 2019 election.

It's estimated a majority of those not voting feel it's a waste of time as their vote would make no difference.
Plus in polling, less than 30% want to keep this unrepresentative first past the post.

Labour has already passed twice in conferences the call for PR overwhelmingly.
However it would depend on what PR system to use.

I spent over 5 weeks campaigning this election and I lost count quickly of the people who had not a clue WHO their MP is, however weren't even sure which Party held the seat.

Good on you working hard
helping get more voters

They will need you in 5 years