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Z 23-11-2013 12:38 PM

I also think it's incredibly arrogant to say that the life of a shark isn't worth as much as the life of a human. I'm no animal activist but I don't consider myself more worthy of the right to live than another species...

Gstar 23-11-2013 12:49 PM

What's the real problem here?

This man went surfing ALONE in a sea where shark attacks HAVE happened in the past, and when I say past it was only a couple weeks after the latest attack which means that there's a high percentage the shark is still lurking around. Now they want to kill the shark for someone's carelessness? pshhh. oh and R.I.P

This reminds me of another story of when a man and wife who lived next to a woods were told that there were bears on the loose but what did the man do? He took both of his dogs out for a walk in the PITCH DARK and ended up getting brutally attacked by a bear. The bear was later caught and killed.

It's not fair for animals to pay the price of people who don't listen.

Jesus. 23-11-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6499227)
You're applying human morals to a species that isn't human. The shark didn't look at this man and kill him because it wanted to rob him or because it had a perverse desire to murder or because it was a hostage situation gone wrong. It attacked him because it's a hunting animal. The man would not have been in that situation if he had chosen not to go surfing. This man put himself into danger, so as sad as it is that he has died, I think it's wrong to go on a witch hunt to try and kill a shark that for all we know will never attack a human again because now it knows that it doesn't enjoy the taste of human flesh. It probably thought he was a seal, going by that old adage that surfers look like seals from below because of the shape of surfing boards and arms dangling down if they're paddling through the water. The shark probably just attacked the guy's arm and realised he wasn't a seal and left him alone; the guy unfortunately then bleeding out and dying.

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MTVN 23-11-2013 12:56 PM

The sea makes up about 70% of the earth, the only bit of that we humans ask for is a little bit of space off our shores to enjoy a nice relaxing swim or maybe a bit of a surf, is that too much to ask of the sharks?

thesheriff443 23-11-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6499104)
I'm against the death penalty in all situations. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, so I definitely don't feel any primitive desire for revenge over an animal that has evolved over hundreds of millions of years to kill things in a particular way, in a particular environment.

let them murder your family and get a good telling off, some people dont deserve life!.
i dont care how long sharks have been around, we hunt and kill are competetors even if its human.

MTVN 23-11-2013 01:32 PM

They aren't trying to catch the shark purely out of revenge though, but because there is now a known threat to the lives of humans in an area they frequently go to surf, it's about trying to minimise the risk of any future attacks

Me. I Am Salman 23-11-2013 01:35 PM

If that was my family member killed by a shark ngl I'd want it dead sorry

Jesus. 23-11-2013 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 6499340)
let them murder your family and get a good telling off, some people dont deserve life!.
i dont care how long sharks have been around, we hunt and kill are competetors even if its human.

It doesn't matter what the crime is, I just don't believe in the death penalty, for either human, or animal crimes. You may think it's easier to think that when I've not been through it, but it isn't, it just means I've thought about my position, and I base it on my views and morals, not some base instinct.


The shark isn't our competitor, in the same way birds aren't our competitors when they fly into a plane engine and cause it to crash.

Me. I Am Salman 23-11-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6499231)
I also think it's incredibly arrogant to say that the life of a shark isn't worth as much as the life of a human. I'm no animal activist but I don't consider myself more worthy of the right to live than another species...

Humans are more important 100%, I have no time for people that would save a dog as opposed to a random stranger. But obviously an animal's life is still valuable

Z 23-11-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 6499549)
Humans are more important 100%, I have no time for people that would save a dog as opposed to a random stranger. But obviously an animal's life is still valuable

I get what you mean, but I just don't think it's justifiable to kill a shark (how are they even supposed to know they've found the right shark) because it killed a human - it doesn't have a moral compass, food is food.

Ammi 23-11-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 6499348)
If that was my family member killed by a shark ngl I'd want it dead sorry

..I think if it was me, then I would know that a knowledge that the shark was dead/killed wouldn't lessen my grief but actually might intensify it, feeling that it was pointless as I would say that the likelihood of a similar thing happening with the same shark would be very rare...it seem like one of those just very tragic/random things when for some reason, the shark felt 'threatened' or something....removing two lives because of it, wouldn't make sense at all to me....

Marc 23-11-2013 03:23 PM

Well that's what sharks do I guess

MTVN 23-11-2013 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6499560)
I get what you mean, but I just don't think it's justifiable to kill a shark (how are they even supposed to know they've found the right shark) because it killed a human - it doesn't have a moral compass, food is food.

What about killing it to ensure the safety of other humans? They now know there is a deadly shark in waters popular with surfers

Marc 23-11-2013 03:49 PM

Matthew I believe the answer lies in the complete banning of surf boards

Jesus. 23-11-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 6499615)
What about killing it to ensure the safety of other humans? They now know there is a deadly shark in waters popular with surfers

The shark didn't want to eat that guy though, because he didn't eat him. He had an exploratory bite and left him alone when he realised he wasn't his food source.

Z 23-11-2013 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6499623)
The shark didn't want to eat that guy though, because he didn't eat him. He had an exploratory bite and left him alone when he realised he wasn't his food source.

Exactly, and it's fairly common knowledge that sharks can't distinguish between seals and humans on surf boards because they look very similar from below.


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