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the truth 25-11-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by getgraceout (Post 6504623)
This thread just shows how glorious Shilpa was :)

I just wish more british women behaved like shilpa...lovely lady

james130 25-11-2013 09:46 PM

If this was just based on CBB5, I would not have voted Jade. But as a housemate overall, based on BB3, Jade was much more entertaining than Shilpa.
But I'm in no way condoning her behaviour on CBB.

Vicky. 25-11-2013 09:48 PM

Depends if the question is who was a better housemate, or who's 'side' were you on during all that stuff.

MeMyselfAndI 25-11-2013 09:50 PM

^
Both of which is Shilpa

Jake. 25-11-2013 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6505192)
Depends if the question is who was a better housemate, or who's 'side' were you on during all that stuff.

This

Niamh. 26-11-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6499214)
In the context of this series, Shilpa, for being dignified. Honestly, before Jade and co rounded on her for being different, I'd have expected Shilpa to either be evicted in a vote to save and getting the fewest votes to save, or to reach the final because no one was putting her up for eviction but she'd be first one out in the final. However, because that horrible gang decided to pick on her, it obviously changed everything. It was very rewarding to see her win, I think it was the correct and best possible result after everything that had happened, it showed that despite the minority of morons out there in the UK, most people do not condone racism or bullying. I'm glad Shilpa won.

Yes, I wholeheartedly agree with all that ^

Z 28-11-2013 03:56 PM

I don't believe any of them were racists to begin with. I think they just descended into making fun of Shilpa's origins as a cheap shot, because to begin with, if my memory serves me correctly, they were just arguing about trivial ****, it's not like Shilpa walked into the house and they immediately started calling her Shilpa Poppadom etc. As I said in my other post, I'm glad that Shilpa won, and I think, in a bizarre way, that series served as a fine example of Big Brother as a social experiment. It started out as a social experiment and it soon became a reality TV car crash, but that series of CBB, without meaning to be, became far more of a social commentary than it was an entertainment show. It showed how awful people could be but it also showed how the British public en masse do not tolerate bullies, we do not want to be known as racists and we do not want to reward losers for ignorant behaviour.

Jade's life afterwards was obviously never the same again and it wasn't long before she was diagnosed with cancer and then passed away. I think had it not been for her stint in CBB, I would have been saddened by her death because she really was one of the best ever housemates until she revealed her nasty side in CBB.

Niamh. 28-11-2013 03:57 PM

That's true Zee, it turned into an almost lord of the Flies type set up :/

Z 28-11-2013 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 6509747)
That's true Zee, it turned into an almost lord of the Flies type set up :/

I was going to make a comment about Piggy and Jade Goody but it's probably not appropriate :laugh:

Niamh. 28-11-2013 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6509757)
I was going to make a comment about Piggy and Jade Goody but it's probably not appropriate :laugh:

:laugh2: probably not no

Pete. 28-11-2013 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6509744)
I don't believe any of them were racists to begin with.

I know they were very stupid and didn't know what they were saying but:

Danielle : I think she should **** off home
Jo and Danielle kept going on about the way they eat in India and said it was *disgusting*
Jo: [mimiking Shilpas accent] I wanted tea .... **** off with that going around my head
Jack called her either a P*** or a ******* (channel 4 said he said the latter)
Jo, Danielle and Jade made up a limerick to which the rhyming words rhymed with P*** (was not shown on channel 4 but transcript was released by Ofcom)

The list goes on . Racist? Maybe. Ignorance? YES!

reece(: 28-11-2013 05:06 PM

A lot of it was down to ignorance and poor education. There was obviously no awareness of the repercussions of what they would say.

Z 29-11-2013 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Petemitch123 (Post 6509885)
I know they were very stupid and didn't know what they were saying but:

Danielle : I think she should **** off home
Jo and Danielle kept going on about the way they eat in India and said it was *disgusting*
Jo: [mimiking Shilpas accent] I wanted tea .... **** off with that going around my head
Jack called her either a P*** or a ******* (channel 4 said he said the latter)
Jo, Danielle and Jade made up a limerick to which the rhyming words rhymed with P*** (was not shown on channel 4 but transcript was released by Ofcom)

The list goes on . Racist? Maybe. Ignorance? YES!

I think it descended into racism but to begin with they just plain didn't like her and they were using her race as a way to demean her in the same way they would if she wore glasses or had braces or was fat... it was like watching a group of bitchy fourteen year olds. As things got more heated, there's no denying it became outright racist abuse, though.

Z 29-11-2013 12:59 AM



I mean, here, it's not anything to do with race or colour, it's to do with background. Jade had the perception that Shilpa thought she was better than her. In Jade's defense, Shilpa here does contradict herself and comes across as condescending, but then Jade starts to get angry and is spurred on by Danielle and Jo smirking away, leading to a full blown screaming match over... oxo cubes? No, over the fact they come from totally different walks of life. Jade just became fixated with her disdain for Shilpa; Danielle and Jo liked to egg her on because they found her passionate ranting hysterically funny.

Shaun 29-11-2013 01:21 AM

I always had less respect for Jo and Danielle than Jade. Jack too, in fact he was the only one that actually used a racial slur (the P word). But because Jade hogged all the airtime she took the brunt of it (and to be fair she was the most aggressive and obnoxious).

But yeah, the whole HAHAHAHA SHE EATS WITH HER HANDS stuff from Danielle was way more disgusting to watch. But no, let's cheer her and get her to the final because everyone else walked or was a member of the Goody family.

Z 29-11-2013 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 6510921)
I always had less respect for Jo and Danielle than Jade. Jack too, in fact he was the only one that actually used a racial slur (the P word). But because Jade hogged all the airtime she took the brunt of it (and to be fair she was the most aggressive and obnoxious).

But yeah, the whole HAHAHAHA SHE EATS WITH HER HANDS stuff from Danielle was way more disgusting to watch. But no, let's cheer her and get her to the final because everyone else walked or was a member of the Goody family.

I find it disgusting that Danielle more or less got away with it because she's pretty and in her exit interview said something along the lines of "oh I'm easily led, even Shilpa said so." Jo O'Meara and Jade Goody had their lives ruined. Danielle married a footballer and is still a tabloid celebrity. Yeah Jade was loud and obnoxious and because she was the first one evicted out of the bunch she took the brunt of the blame - but yeah, Jack was the worst offender and I think Jo and Danielle were spineless and refused to be accountable for their actions. At least Jade spent the rest of her life trying to make up for what she did and upon being evicted started to apologise and didn't try to defend what she said and did.

King Gizzard 29-11-2013 01:36 AM

I don't think I actually watched this series, in a weird way I think CH (sorry to go back to that again..) got me back into watching BB :suspect:

Z 29-11-2013 01:39 AM

I'm just watching the moment where Shilpa is announced as the winner and Jermaine said the loveliest thing to her just before he left "kindness is a strength", awwwww

Shaun 29-11-2013 01:40 AM

Jermaine was robbed :'(

Z 29-11-2013 02:11 AM

Now I'm just Googling pictures of Shilpa Shetty, she has beautiful eyes

Pete. 29-11-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6510924)
I'm just watching the moment where Shilpa is announced as the winner and Jermaine said the loveliest thing to her just before he left "kindness is a strength", awwwww

he didn't say well done though

Sam:) 29-11-2013 04:06 PM

Shilpa, If im honest Jade wasnt as bad as people made her out to be. I think she was just being a bit of a bitch, but not racist. If you ask me Jo and Danielle were well worse. I think that was one of the worst points of the main argument, when Shilpa asked Jo for help and Jo just burst into laughter.

Jake. 29-11-2013 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6510922)
I find it disgusting that Danielle more or less got away with it because she's pretty and in her exit interview said something along the lines of "oh I'm easily led, even Shilpa said so." Jo O'Meara and Jade Goody had their lives ruined. Danielle married a footballer and is still a tabloid celebrity. Yeah Jade was loud and obnoxious and because she was the first one evicted out of the bunch she took the brunt of the blame - but yeah, Jack was the worst offender and I think Jo and Danielle were spineless and refused to be accountable for their actions. At least Jade spent the rest of her life trying to make up for what she did and upon being evicted started to apologise and didn't try to defend what she said and did.

Couldn't agree more with you. I think Jo came to the point of accepting what she had done eventually, and it's very sad when you hear of the suicide attempts, but she should have held her hands up to begin with. Jade really did make an effort after, and it's only too sad that it took her to be cancer ridden to finally be forgiven... at least she died with some peace of mind, and as you said, Danielle slipped out of the spot light and wasn't really mentioned again despite being one of the worst offenders.

Maxxie. 18-05-2014 07:37 PM

I think jade was the least bad out of the 3 girls tbh. Besides, we all really forgave jade in the end ;)

the truth 25-08-2014 05:08 PM

dirk benedict was bullied far far more....they mocked his cancer, his alcoholism, his impotence , theyre were as always anti american on english shows and male bashing too , unless youre gay


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